On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:25PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:32:19AM -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > > I do, too. I like them both. I want them to stop fighting in public. I don't > > care which one started it. I suppose it was Richard. It doesn't matter. Our > > reputations as human beings will long outlive our reputations as coders. > > Fighting in public is not nice. But sometimes nice takes a backseat to > truth. Aside from any amusement value, I'm getting something real out of > this thread: who sticks by their own principles and who doesn't is > becoming clear to me. > > I judge people less by how much they agree with my own views than by how > they adhere to their own. If I don't agree with someone but they stand > by their principles then at least I know where they stand and that they > have honor. > > So far, the rationale from rms is extremely murky at best, and > *anything* less than *best* sounds outright hypocritical. So far, Theo's > position is completely consistent. This is what I've taken away from > this thread. This is important in both theory and practice. Theo is > winning this on both ideological and pragmatic ground. > > -- > Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ > http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
Writing this mail from my Debian/GNU(?) desktop and sending it through my free OpenBSD firewall/server etc ... Following this thread with great interest and find it very claryfing on licensing issues. I admire Richard Stallman for making people aware of free GNU software as a alternative to M$ and other propriary -closed-software vendors. Thanks Richard Stallman! But must admit that after following this thread mr Stallman's arguments seems __contradictory__. He says f.ex. it's 'ok' to use gcc and emacs ... on propriary system, but it's not 'ok' to give to the user - if she or he __wants__ to - the possibility to install propr*** sofware through the *BSD portssystem(sep. install). Finally as long as i do not hurt 'someone' (to mutch) then it must be up to me to choose what i want to do, f.ex. install packages through portssystem. --bfrost (Bengt Frost) http://www.fvp.se, http://www.fvpideas.com, http://www.fvpideas.eu
