I'm not a fan of the hp+ pads. They don't handle heat well, so they perform poorly on the track. On the street they're noisy and very dusty.
There really isn't a dual use street/track pad out there. The best one is the ferodo ds2500... Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "Matthew Yip" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:34 am Subject: [a2-16v-list] Oil temp / brakes at the track To: "Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list" <[email protected]> HP+ is a very aggressive street pad that's designed for exactly what you're doing. Since you don't use the car on the street very often, the HP+ should be fine. Otherwise they're a bit dusty and noisy for street use but not nearly as abusive to rotors as Blue or HT-10 - I can't speak for the DTCs but can imagine they'd be similarly abusive when cold. >________________________________ > From: Chad Rebuck <[email protected]> >To: Matthew Yip <[email protected]>; Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list ><[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 11:23 AM >Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Oil temp / brakes at the track > >What do you know about hawk hp plus? > >Sounds like a less aggressive pad than the dtc. Wonder if they would >handle track days and still be something I could use daily. > >http://www.hawkperformance.com/performance/hpplus.php > >On Monday, June 25, 2012, Matthew Yip wrote: > >> The RWD Beetle is called a 911... >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: Chad Rebuck <[email protected] <javascript:;>> >> >To: Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list >> ><[email protected]<javascript:;> >> > >> >Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:08 PM >> >Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Oil temp / brakes at the track >> > >> >A new rear wheel drive vw? I don't even find much in the way of a google >> >search with those words. Was that a typo? >> > >> >On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Josh reminds me that the Blues are brutal on rotors. The HT-10a are >> easier >> >> on rotors but they're still not what I'd call "rotor friendly". >> >> >> >> Good brake pads are expensive - there isn't a way around that. Having >> said >> >> that though, be thankful you don't own the newest version of the RWD >> Beetle >> >> - pads for those cara are in the $300+ range. >> >> >> >> - Matthew - >> >> >> >> On Jun 25, 2012, at 11:24, Chad Rebuck <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Thanks Matthew, >> >> > >> >> > My gli is a street car, but I don't really drive it a great deal >> anymore. >> >> > I have managed to rack up 4000 miles since finishing the engine >> rebuild >> >> > last September :) >> >> > >> >> > Wow, I checked out the price of the dtc-30 pads and they are just over >> >> $100 >> >> > for the front. Last set of mintex redbox pads I bought cost me $70 >> for >> >> all >> >> > 4 wheels. I'll give the dtc-30 a try at the next event though. >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Careful when mentioning my name and weighing in - fat Asian guys >> could >> >> >> take offense...<G> >> >> >> >> >> >> Oil temps sound about right - my 16v (with a smallish Mocal cooler) >> are >> >> in >> >> >> the 270 range after a 30-45 minute session with Mobil 1 5W-30 oil. I >> >> agree >> >> >> with Josh - so long as you're using a synthetic oil, oil temps, are >> less >> >> >> critical. My coolant temps sky-rocket on the track though and I >> can't >> >> >> figure out why - I have a replacement radiator to install but haven't >> >> had a >> >> >> chance to do that yet (or even race in 2012 but that's another >> issue). >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't have any experience with Mintex other than an old set of >> >> >> Metal-Munchers that deliminated and another set of Red Box(?) that >> >> lasted >> >> >> 15 minutes before going the way of the dinosaurs. The GLi has 10.1s, >> >> IIRC. >> >> >> The GTI has 9.4s and I'm running Hawk HT-10s on my GTi because they >> work >> >> >> in a higher temperature range than the Blue. For the GLi, Hawk >> produces >> >> >> the DTC-30. I don't have experience with them but have heard they >> are >> >> >> excellent. We run 20 lap races which are 30-45 min in length - with >> the >> >> >> Blue pads, I'd encounter fading about half-way thru a race - the >> HT-10s >> >> >> have a similar feel from start to finish which helps build confidence >> >> >> although I still hold that the brakes are on the car in front of me >> ;) >> >> >> >> >> >> Chad - your idea of using an aggressive front pad combined with a >> lesser >> >> >> rear pad is fine. I've been doing that for years and find that the >> best >> >> >> rear pads are the Auto Zone "$19.99" (or cheaper) junk organic pads. >> >> >> Granted, your GLi has more weight in the rear than my GTi, the >> reality >> >> is >> >> >> that the vast majority of the weight in these cars is over the front >> >> wheels >> >> >> - under heavy braking, the suspension unloads the rear and the wheels >> >> lock >> >> >> up, even with heavy front springs to control the dive. I've tried >> >> >> everything short of re-plumbing the brake lines for a manual >> >> proportioning >> >> >> valve and it's just part of driving an FWD car. I have a competitor >> >> whose >> >> >> comment was "I NEVER look for your brake lights but when I see tyre >> >> smoke, >> >> >> I KNOW you're braking". When my crew guy, Brian, started racing (in >> my >> >> >> car), I watched him in a few turns - he'd ask "How'd it look? I was >> >> >> braking like mad". >_______________________________________________ >a2-16v-list mailing list >[email protected] >http://mail.a2-16v.com/mailman/listinfo/a2-16v-list > > > _______________________________________________ a2-16v-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.a2-16v.com/mailman/listinfo/a2-16v-list _______________________________________________ a2-16v-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.a2-16v.com/mailman/listinfo/a2-16v-list
