HP+ is what I run on a stock powered Miata. They work great on that car for 20-30 minute sessions at tracks that are hard on brakes. Great initial bite on the street, good autocross pad, but loud and dusty.
You definitely might have issues in a car with more power... On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> wrote: > HP+ is a very aggressive street pad that's designed for exactly what you're > doing. Since you don't use the car on the street very often, the HP+ should > be fine. Otherwise they're a bit dusty and noisy for street use but not > nearly as abusive to rotors as Blue or HT-10 - I can't speak for the DTCs but > can imagine they'd be similarly abusive when cold. > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Chad Rebuck <[email protected]> >> To: Matthew Yip <[email protected]>; Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 11:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Oil temp / brakes at the track >> >> What do you know about hawk hp plus? >> >> Sounds like a less aggressive pad than the dtc. Wonder if they would >> handle track days and still be something I could use daily. >> >> http://www.hawkperformance.com/performance/hpplus.php >> >> On Monday, June 25, 2012, Matthew Yip wrote: >> >>> The RWD Beetle is called a 911... >>> >>> >>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Chad Rebuck <[email protected] <javascript:;>> >>>> To: Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list >>>> <[email protected]<javascript:;> >>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:08 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Oil temp / brakes at the track >>>> >>>> A new rear wheel drive vw? I don't even find much in the way of a google >>>> search with those words. Was that a typo? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Josh reminds me that the Blues are brutal on rotors. The HT-10a are >>> easier >>>>> on rotors but they're still not what I'd call "rotor friendly". >>>>> >>>>> Good brake pads are expensive - there isn't a way around that. Having >>> said >>>>> that though, be thankful you don't own the newest version of the RWD >>> Beetle >>>>> - pads for those cara are in the $300+ range. >>>>> >>>>> - Matthew - >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 11:24, Chad Rebuck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Matthew, >>>>>> >>>>>> My gli is a street car, but I don't really drive it a great deal >>> anymore. >>>>>> I have managed to rack up 4000 miles since finishing the engine >>> rebuild >>>>>> last September :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, I checked out the price of the dtc-30 pads and they are just over >>>>> $100 >>>>>> for the front. Last set of mintex redbox pads I bought cost me $70 >>> for >>>>> all >>>>>> 4 wheels. I'll give the dtc-30 a try at the next event though. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Careful when mentioning my name and weighing in - fat Asian guys >>> could >>>>>>> take offense...<G> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oil temps sound about right - my 16v (with a smallish Mocal cooler) >>> are >>>>> in >>>>>>> the 270 range after a 30-45 minute session with Mobil 1 5W-30 oil. I >>>>> agree >>>>>>> with Josh - so long as you're using a synthetic oil, oil temps, are >>> less >>>>>>> critical. My coolant temps sky-rocket on the track though and I >>> can't >>>>>>> figure out why - I have a replacement radiator to install but haven't >>>>> had a >>>>>>> chance to do that yet (or even race in 2012 but that's another >>> issue). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have any experience with Mintex other than an old set of >>>>>>> Metal-Munchers that deliminated and another set of Red Box(?) that >>>>> lasted >>>>>>> 15 minutes before going the way of the dinosaurs. The GLi has 10.1s, >>>>> IIRC. >>>>>>> The GTI has 9.4s and I'm running Hawk HT-10s on my GTi because they >>> work >>>>>>> in a higher temperature range than the Blue. For the GLi, Hawk >>> produces >>>>>>> the DTC-30. I don't have experience with them but have heard they >>> are >>>>>>> excellent. We run 20 lap races which are 30-45 min in length - with >>> the >>>>>>> Blue pads, I'd encounter fading about half-way thru a race - the >>> HT-10s >>>>>>> have a similar feel from start to finish which helps build confidence >>>>>>> although I still hold that the brakes are on the car in front of me >>> ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chad - your idea of using an aggressive front pad combined with a >>> lesser >>>>>>> rear pad is fine. I've been doing that for years and find that the >>> best >>>>>>> rear pads are the Auto Zone "$19.99" (or cheaper) junk organic pads. >>>>>>> Granted, your GLi has more weight in the rear than my GTi, the >>> reality >>>>> is >>>>>>> that the vast majority of the weight in these cars is over the front >>>>> wheels >>>>>>> - under heavy braking, the suspension unloads the rear and the wheels >>>>> lock >>>>>>> up, even with heavy front springs to control the dive. I've tried >>>>>>> everything short of re-plumbing the brake lines for a manual >>>>> proportioning >>>>>>> valve and it's just part of driving an FWD car. I have a competitor >>>>> whose >>>>>>> comment was "I NEVER look for your brake lights but when I see tyre >>>>> smoke, >>>>>>> I KNOW you're braking". When my crew guy, Brian, started racing (in >>> my >>>>>>> car), I watched him in a few turns - he'd ask "How'd it look? I was >>>>>>> braking like mad". >> _______________________________________________ >> a2-16v-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.a2-16v.com/mailman/listinfo/a2-16v-list >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > a2-16v-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.a2-16v.com/mailman/listinfo/a2-16v-list _______________________________________________ a2-16v-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.a2-16v.com/mailman/listinfo/a2-16v-list
