I was thinking the same thing. But with the symptoms he's reporting, the possibilities are numerous. Since the engine starts and runs, I would be looking at the rotating ancilliaries. Do any of the pulleys wobble? Since it sounds like someone removed the A/C, they may have messed up something with the v-belt system, depending on exactly how they removed the A/C compressor. Like did they leave all the pulleys in place, except the one on the compressor itself? As I recall, the A/C drive belt is a wider, heavier duty belt than the rest. Then I wonder if the power steering pump and water pump are turning freely. If one of those is frozen, or partially locked up, that could be a problem. As I mentioned before, trying to trouble shoot this via textual description is nigh on impossible. If any of one of our more knowledgeable members is located geographically close to this guy, maybe we could be of more help.
~Holland On Dec 25, 2015 09:14, "Les Noriel" <les.nor...@gmail.com> wrote: > One idea I thought might be part of the problem. Check that the timing > belt tensioner is good. When those bearings go bad, it can make a lot of > noise (buzzer?) It can also compromise timing which would make the motor > run badly, especially if the belt jumped a tooth. Just a thought > > Les > On Dec 25, 2015 8:27 AM, "Holland Phillips" <hollandphill...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Another thing you could do that may help to identify the source of the >> problem is take a magnet, like one of those extendable magnetic retrievers, >> and see if it picks up the metallic shavings you mentioned. If they're non >> magnetic, then it may indicate that something is rubbing against the head. >> Just a suggestion... >> >> ~Holland >> On Dec 24, 2015 23:29, "damac2004" <damac2...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> sorry this car has a 16v motor. i have been driving it for a couple >>> months so the noise and loping is definately different and made me want to >>> shut the car off. >>> >>> no ac hardware installed i think somebody yanked it and did things the >>> wrong way. >>> >>> i got a bently manual and assume i will have to break things down to >>> check, i guess i was just looking for some real world experience. >>> >>> i just assumed something was getting jammed up in a way to put load on >>> the timing belt side to make it lope at idle. but that coupled with the >>> oil light and shavings near the im shaft makes me fear its the engine side. >>> i can't even move a pulley when tugging by hand right now. >>> >>> i had a diesel vacuum pump sieze up once and stopped the im shaft dead. >>> you could hear the belt screeching, oil light went off and you could smell >>> the belt. that was the craziest thing i have ever seen, was using a rotary >>> type and the gear shaved grooves into the cover. >>> >>> >>> after i got it towed home last night i had to start it and move it onto >>> the driveway. started and ran as normal with no oil pressure light but i >>> didn't want to warm it up. wasn't loping but all the clattery >>> racket/scratching can be heard especially after stabbing the throttle and >>> letting off. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 10:35:01 PM UTC-8, stevenarguello >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The 8v distributor runs off of the intermediate shaft along with the >>>> oil pump. If it jumped a tooth or two the spark timing would be off. The >>>> 16v dizzy runs off the cam. >>>> Does it have A/C? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 24, 2015, at 12:22 PM, damac2004 <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm new to these cars. I got one of these a few months ago and planned >>>> on using it as a project to restore for fun. I have been driving it as is >>>> because it worked. I do have to get it smogged and clean up some neglect >>>> but it was getting me around ok with no funky noises. >>>> >>>> Yesterday I came off the freeway and all of a sudden the high pressure >>>> oil buzzer constantly started going off. I heard a racket of screeches and >>>> clunks in the engine bay and the engine was loping near idle speed. 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