ye, it's also fact that the site hasn't been updated in 3 years now..

meh...

On 23 February 2010 11:25, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti
<[email protected]>wrote:

> This has to be pushed from above. ISPs will never upgrade all their routers
> out of will unless it makes financial sense to them. Only new ISPs who buy
> new equipment would actually offer support.
> The following people might have a better clue:
> http://www.mt.ipv6tf.org/aboutus/
>
> Last I asked I published my findings over here. I honestly don't consider
> it worth it to use tunnelling services since it reminds me of the good old
> days of dialup (including the latency).
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Anton Xuereb <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> ah fudgits...it's the same method of management we always work with here
>> in malta..Instead of being aware of the global problem with ipv4 addresses
>> and taking steps to be the first in teh market to implement ipv6 and bring
>> new functionality to the client, we wait and lurk in the shadows until the
>> problem becomes so real that not facing it would result in people not having
>> internet connectivity.
>>
>> Ofcourse this will bring with it the usual problems of a hurried
>> migration, no proper plan, missing features and lacking services of which in
>> the end it's us as customers that will be facing the consequences.
>>
>> And when then finally they do start moving to ipv6, none of their
>> subscribers will have ipv6 enabled routers that actually support the stack
>> well resulting in even more inconvenience.
>>
>> Early dual stack adoption would help avoid all this but hey im not more
>> than a snotty customer that doesn't know anything 'bout natworkssss hijj!
>>
>> ax hekk qalli tal go lahhar darba li cempilt :|
>>
>>
>> On 23 February 2010 11:08, Iain <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if Glen considers a year to be "the near future"?
>>>
>>> I'm seriously questioning whether any ISP has actually done something to
>>> implement IPv6 locally. An email I received from GO towards the end of
>>> last year said that they "do not have any time frame when the system
>>> will be upgraded to IPv6" and that "all the network's infastructure
>>> [sic] needs to be changed".
>>>
>>> Hoping for some positive results from another angle, but for the time
>>> being, using a tunnel broker seems to be the only solution.
>>>
>>> Smart Island, my arse.
>>>
>>> On 08/03/09 23:04, Anton Xuereb wrote:
>>> > Dear client,
>>> >
>>> >     regarding IPv6 deployment, the company is in process to implement
>>> > IPv6 in the future but due to the complexity of the isue we are unable
>>> > to provide you with an exact date then this will be finalised. We will
>>> > however, in the near future, advise our clients when IPv6 is to be
>>> > deployed and the steps to be taken to implement it from there end.
>>> > Should you need further information please do not hesitate to contact
>>> us
>>> > back.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks and best regards,
>>> >
>>> > Glen Taylor
>>> >
>>> > GO Technical Support Agent.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti
>>> > <[email protected]
>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Bil-Malti nghidu laqi - but yes lets hear what they have to say.
>>> >     Vodafone anyone ?
>>> >
>>> >     On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Anton Xuereb
>>> >     <[email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >     > I finally got round to emailing some isps..
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > GO
>>> >     > ______________________________________________________________
>>> >     > Hi,
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I would like to enquire on the state of IPv6 deployment or any
>>> >     plans to do
>>> >     > so.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > As per EU directives, 25% of european households should be IPv6
>>> >     enabled by
>>> >     > 2010 and there is no better way for GO to retain it's dominant
>>> >     position in
>>> >     > the Maltese market than by being at the front of the next
>>> generation of
>>> >     > internet services.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Hope to hear from you soon.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Thanks,
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Anton Xuereb
>>> >     >
>>> >     > ______________________________________________________________
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Melita
>>> >     >
>>> >     > ______________________________________________________________
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Message :
>>> >     >
>>> >     > HI,
>>> >     >
>>> >     >  I would like to enquire on that state of IPv6 support for melita
>>> >     customers.
>>> >     > As per EU directives 25% of european households should be IPv6
>>> >     enabled by
>>> >     > 2010. Being at the front of the IPv6 revolution in Malta would
>>> >     ensure that
>>> >     > Melita remains the main telecommunications provider in Malta.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Thanks,
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Anton Xuereb
>>> >     >
>>> >     > P.S. Yes I know,  I'm a lying bastard - sue me  Nothing like
>>> >     telling them
>>> >     > what they wanna hear :D
>>> >     >
>>> >     > M
>>> >     > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Keith Vassallo
>>> >     <[email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >> To me that sounds like they are not doing anything, otherwise
>>> they
>>> >     >> would say so.
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >> K
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >> On Mar 2, 2009, at 14:10, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti
>>> >     <[email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >     >>  > wrote:
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >> > I forgot to mention, but it would be best to liase with the
>>> people
>>> >     >> > representing the ISPs on the IPv6 task force.
>>> >     >> >
>>> >     >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Iain
>>> >     <[email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >     >> >> Last week I sent messages to GO, Vodafone, Melita and Austin
>>> Gatt
>>> >     >> >> asking
>>> >     >> >> about the status of IPv6 support.
>>> >     >> >>
>>> >     >> >> So far I have one reply from GO:
>>> >     >> >>
>>> >     >> >> "Unfortunately we are not in a position to respond to the
>>> question
>>> >     >> >> below. It is currently an internal information which at the
>>> >     moment we
>>> >     >> >> cannot give out, but will be informing our customers in the
>>> >     upcoming
>>> >     >> >> future."
>>> >     >> >>
>>> >     >> >> Great. Will not even say *if* they're doing anything about
>>> it!
>>> >     >> >>
>>> >     >> >> Iain.
>>> >     >> >>
>>> >     >> >> Nothing back from any of the others.
>>> >     >> >>
>>> >     >> >> On 25/02/09 10:08, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote:
>>> >     >> >>> None... I have already sent an email to all of them as well
>>> as
>>> >     >> >>> nudging
>>> >     >> >>> them to provide PoP access via SIXXS since they would
>>> probably
>>> >     >> >>> need to
>>> >     >> >>> change their ADSL/cable modems. I suggest you send another
>>> gentle
>>> >     >> >>> email. The more people ask, the more they consider buying
>>> the
>>> >     >> >>> bandwidth. The only entity which apparently has official
>>> >     native IPv6
>>> >     >> >>> connectivity is University through the EU academic network.
>>> >     >> >>>
>>> >     >> >>> If anyone on the list can shed more light about this issue,
>>> I
>>> >     >> >>> would be
>>> >     >> >>> deeply thankful.
>>> >     >> >>>
>>> >     >> >>> I have setup my home router (Linux of course) with IPv6
>>> >     connectivity
>>> >     >> >>> through a tunnel to holland. The italian PoP which was the
>>> closest
>>> >     >> >>> wasn't providing access to non-customers when I registered.
>>> I was
>>> >     >> >>> given a /48 and all my home has native IPv6 connectivity.
>>> Would be
>>> >     >> >>> great to eliminate the need to tunnel since it kills latency
>>> >     when I
>>> >     >> >>> connect remotely to a file share or download ISOs via
>>> bittorrent.
>>> >     >> >>> SIXXS offer a very good bittorrent service for people
>>> connected
>>> >     >> >>> natively via IPv6.
>>> >     >> >>>
>>> >     >> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Iain
>>> >     <[email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >     >> >>>> Anyone know of an ISP in Malta who supports IPv6?
>>> >     >> >>>>
>>> >     >> >>>> Regs.
>>> >     >> >>>>
>>> >     >> >>>> Iain.
>>> >     >> >>>>
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