> > This is why the automatic description cache and the manual description > need to be kept separate; just "pasting" the autodesc into the manual > description field would mean it could never be updated automatically. That > would be very bad indeed.
+1000!!!! Exactly! I was operating under the assumption we were talking about the existing "description" field. Separate auto and manual description fields completely avoids *all* of the issues/concerns I raised :) On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Magnus Manske <magnusman...@googlemail.com> wrote: > So it turns out that ValterVBot alone has created over 1.8 MILLION > "manual" descriptions. And there are other bots that do this. We already > HAVE automatic descriptions, we just store them in the "manual" field. > > The worst of both worlds. > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM Magnus Manske <magnusman...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:43 AM Monte Hurd <mh...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> True about algorithms never being finished, but aren't we essentially >>> "stuck" with the first run output, unless I misunderstand how you envision >>> this working? >>> >>> (assuming you don't want to over-write non-blank descriptions the next >>> time you improve and re-run the process) >>> >> >> Of course we're not "stuck" with the initial automatic descriptions! >> Whatever gave you that idea? Ideally, each description would be computed >> on-the-fly, but that won't scale; output needs to be cached, and >> invalidated when necessary. >> >> Possible reasons for cache invalidation: >> * The item statements have changed >> * Items referenced in the description (e.g. country for nationality) have >> changed >> * The algorithm has been improved >> * After cache reached a certain age, just to make sure >> >> This is why the automatic description cache and the manual description >> need to be kept separate; just "pasting" the autodesc into the manual >> description field would mean it could never be updated automatically. That >> would be very bad indeed. >> >
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