At 09:39 AM 12/8/00 -0600, Hill, David T - Belo Corporate wrote:
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>From: Gunther Birznieks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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>"Obviously they still have to be technically interviewed, but in lieu of
>someone with or without certification, it's easier to short-list on the
>basis of such certification (or some equivalent outstanding thing such as
>contributing to CPAN)."
>
> If you are 'short-listing' based on certification, you may be
> missing your best candidates...
Whatever. You missed my point entirely and took my posts on this subject
out of context.
The point is about probability and statistics. There is no way when a
hiring manager gets 100 CVs that they can look through them all with a fine
tooth comb especially when geeks tend to SUCK at writing CVs (eg 80% seem
to feel that they have to write a 20 pages that say nothing but pisses off
the reader).
Also, I didn't say certs are the only way to short-list. So are advanced
degrees (not necessarily CS), someone who has written tutorials, someone
who has contributed to open source (eg says on their CV they have modules
on CPAN), etc.
Certs are ONE distinguishing factor.
OK, tell you what. I guess the next time I put an ad in the paper, I'll
just tell people to send me just their name and phone number so I can set
up an interview.
Because according to this sentiment, if I pay attention to distinguishing
factors on their CV then I might be missing some of my best candidates if I
do so, so I might as well interview 'em all!
BZZT!
Wrong answer. Screw that. It doesn't work that way. There is limited time
in this world to call people in for interviews. If anyone thinks
distinguishing factors should not affect the way a hiring manager reads a
CV has their head in a cloud.
Anyway, I apologize for giving harsh example -- but it seems that there's
no other way to demonstrate this. The fact is that certs help and certs are
important. But the degree to which they are important is another issue
entirely.
And I concede that it may be too early for certs being necessary for
mod_perl itself because it's not reached an adequate critical mass as
pointed out earlier.
However, the fact is that their can be other distinguishing factors on a
CV, but to ignore those factors INCLUDING certs is just stupid unless you
have the luxury of only having some ridiculously low number of CVs to look
at and can spend that time interviewing people because you only have a few
straws to grasp.
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