wow crazy!! just got my email and saw this thread!
did anyone post on their site? again that node: http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=146303 Wim Kerkhoff wrote: >I'm jumping into this thread quite lately, but here are my $.03 CDN. > >Mark Fowler wrote: > >>On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Medi Montaseri wrote: >> >>>Stuart Frew wrote: >>> >>>>Ideally you would have linux( or what ever) on every developers >>>>machine but sometimes you don't get the choice. >>>> >>>Oh "the choice" is easy....just come in on a weekend and install >>>linux on your box. Don't tell IT. That's all. >>> >>I think the "don't get a choice" is more to do with that you require >>access to some application that requires MS windows to run. This is >>typically Exchange, Word, and most importantly iexplore for testing >>the website you are developing. There are solutions to this: >> >> a) Terminal Server. Get one Windows box running terminal server (the >> server version of w2k ships with it by default iirc) and install >> rdesktop[1] on your desktop Linux machines. This means you >> can all remotely open up a window to a Windows desktop on your linux >> box. >> >> It's reasonably fast but you will be limited to 256 colours and >> animations will be slow. >> > >An alternative to this, is to use VNC or TightVNC to connect to a spare >Windows computer somewhere. I do this quite often to connect from my >Linux system at work to a spare Windows system at home, across the VPN. >I'm sure there are people who set up a local spare box, that developers >can share if they need IE to test a webpage or convert an Office >document or whatever > >> b) VMWare (and similar) that allows you to run an emulated Windows >> computer on your real computer. >> >> I tried the trial version of this but I found it was taking up too >> much resources on my desktop. OTOH, I never had any problem with it >> and it worked flawlessly, and my desktop machine is quite slow by >> modern standards. >> > >I've been using VMWare for years with great success. Anything with a > >>=400 Mhz processor and 256MB should be fine; all computers from the last 3 years >have these specs, and RAM is cheap. By the way, if you originally tried Vmware2, try >Vmware 3 as I found it a lot faster. Also make sure your system is tweaked: HD is in >DMA mode, recompiled kernel, etc, etc. These days, I run an average of 3 VMWare >sessions at any given time: 2 linux, and one Win32. I toggle between Win98 and WinXP, >but do run all 4 images simulaneously (plus my normal apps) on occasion. ATA100 or >SCSI does help though. >> > >> c) VMWare the other way round - run it on Windows and have emulated >> linux boxen. The advantage of this is that you'll be able to quickly >> switch between a range of development environments, roll back changes >> etc. etc. I've never personally tried this solution... >> > >I've done this in the past, and we have developers that use this method >as well. > >> d) WINE on Linux. I've not had much success with this, but if it's a >> particular application you might have success. >> > >Doesn't work all so super hot for iexplore, winword, excel, and so >forth. It works fine for quicktime, windows media player, starcraft, >winamp, winzip, notepad, minesweeper, and a lot of other things; see >winehq.com for an application database. > >I have some (trippy) screenshots of VNC, VMWare, VNC+VMWare, and Wine in >action over at: > >http://www.nyetwork.org/wim/screenshots/ >