Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Adam Prime <adam.pr...@utoronto.ca> wrote:
I'm not sure how many of you are aware of chromatic's previous article
about "5 things perl 5 needs right now", or about the mod_perlite
project that was spawned by some people from sixapart, but chromatic has
published another article that's basically a conversation with Byrne
Reese and Aaron Stone, aka the guys at 6A that are/were working on
mod_perlite. Anyway, it might be interesting to some people on the list:
http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/01/cgi-is-dead-mod-perlite-is-ali.html
We discussed this on PerlMonks. Here's my take on it:
http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=738192
- Perrin
In the context of people with uber-cheap virtual webhosting, is changing
MaxRequestsPerChild really an option? I personally have little to no
experience in that sort of setup, but that doesn't seem like something
I'd want someone to be able to screw around with.
FastCGI, to me anyway, has a big barrier to entry because you have to
modify your code to run in it. It's a pretty trivial modification mind
you, but it's a modification none the less. To people on this list it's
no big deal, but to people with $5 mass vhosting accounts that don't
know anything about anything, it is a big deal.
Fred's comment about not being able to expect much for $4.95 / month
sort of shows the disconnect between the perl and PHP worlds. for $4.95
a month one can get mass vhosting account with mysql or postgres
available, and can get WordPress installed and running without needing
to know much more than how to read, how to use and ftp client, and how
to use their unzipper of choice. In the perl world, nothing is quite
that simple. Movable Type has come pretty close, but that's only if
you're running under plain CGI (ie the devil)
Don't get me wrong, there is almost no way that i'd ever actually use
mod_perlite, but I can appreciate that there are a lot of people out
there, that might become interested in perl instead of php if this niche
was filled. For the long term health of perl 5, we would be greatly
served by bringing in more new blood.
Look at the list archive post summaries:
http://marc.info/?l=apache-modperl&r=1&w=2
Look at the results of the mod_perl survey:
http://kabob.ca/mod_perl_survey/html/
How long have you been using mod_perl?
Just started 4.2% 18
Less than one year 4.0% 17
Less than two years 8.9% 38
Less than three years 9.1% 39
Less than four years 9.6% 41
Less than five years 11.4% 49
More than five years 52.9% 227
Both of these things point out (to me anyway) that less people are
getting into mod_perl as each day goes by. mod_perlite could fill a
much needed gap between cgi on mass vhosting and mod_perl user with root
on a dedicated machine.
The other thing I think is sorely lacking is actual (easily installable)
applications, but that's another story entirely.
Adam
