Interesting. I did not even know about that #2 guy. What sort of hardware and OS are you running there?
Igor On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jeff Nokes <jeff_no...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well, actually Igor, we ended up writing eBay::API. We needed something > that was able to extend many more web services that are internal-use only, > that the public doesn't have access to. The fact that eBay web service > data-types are probably the most complex out there, and they change often, > we had to come up with a way to easily incorporate those changes by slurping > up a giant WSDL, and auto-generating all the classes and data types, etc. > > But we do thank you for writing that. I knew of many API clients at the > time that absolutely loved Net::eBay! In fact, I think at the time, the #2 > API client (in listings) was perl-based, and using it. > > Cheers, > - Jeff > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Igor Chudov <ichu...@gmail.com> > *To:* Jeff Nokes <jeff_no...@yahoo.com> > *Cc:* Brad Van Sickle <bvs7...@gmail.com>; mod_perl list < > modperl@perl.apache.org> > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:26:53 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Why people not using mod_perl > > You must have use my module Net::eBay, at some point, right? > > I wrote Net::eBay about 3 years ago. > > Igor > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Jeff Nokes <jeff_no...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Doesn't Amazon run mod_perl/Mason? >> >> BTW, I agree with most of your points (would debate #4,5). I may >> substitute the phrase "More convenient" for "Easier" in #3. I would also >> add ... >> >> #7) How many engineers are available to hire that know or want to work >> with said technology? >> >> I built a great platform at eBay on mod_perl/Mason that handled eBay-size >> traffic; we ran 6 eBay sites on it. Now it is used for specialty e-commerce >> solutions like worldofgood.ebay.com, global.ebay.com (cross-border >> trade), dealfinder.ebay.com, etc. In fact, on the same hardware, the >> main eBay Java app would support ~6 threads per box; the mod_perl platform >> supported ~60 (prefork), significant CapEx and power savings (which adds up >> at a place like eBay). >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Brad Van Sickle <bvs7...@gmail.com> >> *To:* mod_perl list <modperl@perl.apache.org> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:31:30 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Why people not using mod_perl >> >> >> >> This is a mod_perl list, so I would expect to see Perl championed pretty >> heavily, but Java, .net and there ilk are undoubtedly *the* choice for large >> web applications. I'd like to get into some discussion as to why almost all >> *large* sites choose these languages. >> >> I don't have any experience developing a large application in Java, >> although I do have a lot of experience working on the operations side of a >> large web application that is Java based. >> >> The reasons I generally hear for choosing Java over mod_perl are: >> >> 1) Speed - I don't buy this at all >> 2) Maintainability - I think this makes sense. Perl can be pretty easy to >> maintain if you stick a good framework around it, but you have to seek out >> that framework and YOU are responsible for adhereing to it. All of that is >> inherent in Java. It also helps that Java has OO built in. >> 3) Easier to package and build/move code - In my experience this is true. >> 4) Advantages to be gained from running on an actually application server >> - Also valid >> 5) Compatible enterprise class middleware - Also true, Java plugs into >> more truly enterprise level suff than Perl does. (security frameworks, >> etc... ) >> 6) Support >> >> A lot of the industry seems look at Perl as obsolete technology that has >> been replaced by *insert hot new technology of the week here* which is a >> total shame. I've worked with a lot of technologies and I think Perl is a >> great choice for small/medium websites and webapps, which is probably what >> most of us work on. But I'm very interested to know at what point (if any) >> a site/app grows too large or too complex for mod_perl and what defines that >> turning point. Could Amazon run on mod_perl for example? >> >> >> >> >> >> Phil Carmody wrote: >> >> --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Igor Chudov <ichu...@gmail.com> <ichu...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> My site algebra.com is about 80,000 >> lines of mod_perl code. >> >> I wrote a relatively large framework, with many homegrown >> perl modules, about five years ago. >> >> It uses a database, image generation modules, a big >> mathematical engine that I wrote (that "shows >> work", unlike popular third party packages), etc. >> >> >> All pages of my site are dynamic and it is very image heavy >> >> due to math formulae. >> >> I can say two things: >> >> 1) It is relatively fast, serving pages in 0.1 seconds or >> so >> >> 2) Despite the quantity of code, and its age, it is still >> very maintainable and understandable (to me). >> >> In that case, would you like to fix its mangled output? >> >> e.g. >> http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework/divisibility/Prime_factorization_algorithm.wikipedia >> >>   (Redirected from Prime factorization algorithm) >> >> faster than O((1+ε)b) for all positive ε >> >> an integer M with 1 ≤ M ≤ N >> >> Pollard's p − 1 algorithm >> >> Section 4.5.4: Factoring into Primes, pp. 379–417. >> >> Chapter 5: Exponential Factoring Algorithms, pp. 191–226. Chapter 6: >> Subexponential Factoring Algorithms, pp. 227–284. Section 7.4: Elliptic >> curve method, pp. 301–313. >> >> Eric W. Weisstein, “RSA-640 Factored†>> >> v • d • e >> >> AKS · APR · Ballie–PSW · ECPP · Fermat · Lucas · Lucas–Lehmer · >> Lucas–Lehmer–Riesel · Proth's theorem · Pépin's · >> Solovay–Strassen · Miller–Rabin · Trial division >> >> Sieve of Atkin · Sieve of Eratosthenes · Sieve of Sundaram · Wheel >> factorization >> >> >> CFRAC · Dixon's · ECM · Euler's · Pollard's rho · P − 1 · P + 1 · >> QS · GNFS · SNFS · rational sieve · Fermat's · Shanks' square forms · >> Trial division · Shor's >> >> Ancient Egyptian multiplication · Aryabhata · Binary GCD · Chakravala · >> Euclidean · Extended Euclidean · integer relation algorithm · integer >> square root · Modular exponentiation · Schoof's · Shanks-Tonelli >> >> >> >> Looks like you've got utf8 and iso8859-1 messed up. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> >> >
