On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 09:46:52AM -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: > Ruben, thank you for your opinion. You have your own opinion and I have > mine, and that is what makes the Internet beautiful. > > Take a look at your own website coinhangout.com. It is down right now. But > take a look at its google cache: > > http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.coinhangout.com&oq=cache%3Awww.coinhangout.com&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.1525j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 > > click on View Source of that. > > There you see that most of the page is perl code, in embperl wrappers. Just > a little HTML head and ending is HTML. > > This is what I found to be typical of most pages.
That is called templates, BTW and is common. In that case I was importing a large modperl application and embedding it into a second page. It was pretty quick and dirty but it did the job to about 80K hits a day on a little atom fit/pc processor. I stopped using the page when someone stole all the coins on the site from their home. I lost my stomach for it and passed the site along to a friend who may or may not be using it. That doesn't make CGI.pm any less of a pig. It is th swiss army knife of internet programming, but it has a huge cost, especailly if you are using large pages heavy on content that are cached in RAM. It also runs a lot of contacts, and can gum up the OS scheduler and wait cues real good. > > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Ruben Safir <ru...@mrbrklyn.com> wrote: > > > On 09/10/2016 09:53 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: > > > It turns out that HTML has a very minor and subordinate role to perl > > > application logic, and putting "perl inside html" was completely > > misguided > > > and instead I decided to "make html inside perl". Using CGI module of > > > course. This was far more maintainable. > > > > > > Just for the record, this is not correct and I think time has proven > > that integrating language into the html output has resulted in a Marjory > > of active server pages. Aside from Perl, there has been similar > > constructions in python, rails, php, etc etc etc... > > > > I just have a distaste for opinions spouted as facts. > > > > If anything, CGI.PM is the clumsy huge animal and is problematic, even > > from the beginning. There has always been work arounds to sidestep it > > including fastcgi et al. Use of it is a (huge at times) convenience for > > some, but speed, organization and efficiency are not it's benefits. > > > > > > > > -- > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, > > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > > -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
