Owen,

 

I have read Lawrence’s  reply, and he made a good suggestion a Land Rover
savvy guy:

 

How about your good friend Willie Lamb across the ocean?

 

Colin

 

From: Owen Jenkins [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 10 May 2012 18:15
To: mogtalk2
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Miscellany

 

Tim,

I like the idea of what you are saying. I have a fault code
reader/cancelling device. It cost a lot more than £30, but that's by the by.
I bought it from Halford's. 'Nuff said.

 

Now, to demonstrate to me that what you say is true, tell me what this fault
code means: P.1316; and how I cure the fault. It's one I get often from my
4.0 litre, Land Rover V-8 powered, 2003 +8.

 

If you can tell me, you can also tell the MMC - they don't know, nor do any
of the dealers I've taken it to. Nor does the AA.

 

I just cancel the code and carry on as before. Nothing seems to happen
except that it occurs again, sooner or later.

 

I gather Rover used to charge about £5 grand for their Testbook set-up. I'm
not prepared to spend that on diagnostic equipment.

 

Owen.

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Tim Harris <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: mogtalk2 <mailto:[email protected]>  

Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:52 PM

Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Miscellany

 

 

On 10 May 2012 10:33, Chas. <[email protected]> wrote:

 Of course on the technical front there is much less you can do at home with
modern electronics than you could with points and tappets.

 

Sadly, this myth has been well and truly sold to many people, who honestly
believe that you can't work with modern cars at home.

 

Routine servicing is much easier than it used to be, spark plugs only have
to be changed once in a blue moon, tappets, never need attention, all you
really have to do is change the oil and check the fluids - and yet strangely
the costs we get charged by the dealer are vastly higher than ever they used
to be.

 

Cheapest entry point is 30 quid or so, which buys a code reader with which
you can interpret any stored fault codes and clear them (a process which a
dealer would charge 70 quid plus for). Plug the reader into the OBDII
socket, download the codes, look up what they mean, fix the offending part.
Perfect for identifying and cleaning or replacing a dirty MAF sensor or
similar.

 

If you want to spend a bit more money, then a couple of hundred quid on a
laptop, a copy of the relevant software (e.g. Rovacom for a GEMS +8) and you
can furtle to your heart's content, really getting to grips with what your
engine's up to.

 

If you want to get properly ambitious, then you can buy a complete
replacement ECU from someone like Omex (who supply MMC), Emerald, or MBE,
and completely remap and reprogram your entire performance envelope.

 

And if you want to go completely OTT, you can even build you own engine
management system from scratch with Megasquirt.

 

I fully understand that messing about with one's engine is not everyone's
cup of tea - and fair enough, I wouldn't try to convince anyone to do stuff
they don't want to, but I would hate to think there are people out there who
think 'I wish I could work on my modern Mog like I used to with my old one".

 

It's a different set of skills, sure, but certainly not beyond an average
enthusiast mechanic. I reckon that adjusting one's fuelling map with a
laptop is a heck of a lot more straightforward than trying to understand the
complexities of twin DCOEs.

 

Tim

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