OK, I may be the only person on this board that had a Precision 18 before my Montgomery 17 so here's my two cents: Jeff, there is no comparison. The Monty is a better sailor, more stiff, and better built. However, there are a few reasons why you still may want a Precision 18. One, there are more of them on the market, and two, they have a kick up rudder (if that's important to you). If you're not going sailing because you can't find a good Monty, then get a Precision. For me, I would wait for a good used one or plunk the money down for a new one. Contact me off line if you want more details. Maria Jorge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Kelch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_17 VS Precision 18 > Jeff, > > Bob's is certainly an unbiased opinion :) > > The spec's do speak for themselves and my personal > opinon is that the M17 is the best boat in it's class > on the market. > > However I believe in going sailing and I have come > across a number of Precision 18's out cruising and the > people using them seem quite happy with them. > > They may not know what the difference is but they are > out there enjoying the water. > > My bottom line recommendation would be to get a M17 > for the fall Phoenix sailing but if you can't, get a > Precision as they are a decent enjoyable boat. > > If you buy used and get a good deal you can always > upgrade to an M17 if you feel the need without loosing > much money. > > Get ON THE WATER and enjoy it while you can. > > Doug Kelch > PS: I love my M15 > --- Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jeff > > > > I'll take this one. Without bragging too much, the > > Montgomery 17 is a faster > > boat, more weatherly and larger than a Precision 18. > > Also the M_17 has > > more ballast > > (for better stability and windward performance) and > > is built for much > > rougher conditions. > > > > I've seen Precisions up close and was not impressed > > with the build > > quality. They are built > > thin and light weight, have cheap plastic windows > > and have poor sailing > > performance overall. They are sold thru dealership > > networks with the > > usual 30% mark up, and mass produced in Florida. We > > beat every Precision > > (even the 21 with mylar racing sails) at > > every SCA Cruiser Challange the last 4 years in a > > stock Montgomery 17. > > > > Its funny how these boat factorys name a boat for > > length. A perfect > > example is the > > Potter 19. The Potter is really only 17 feet 7 > > inches long ON DECK, but > > they count the motor mount as a foot and hence the > > misleading 19 foot > > length figure. > > > > Lets look at the Precision 18. > > > > Precision 18 Specifications > > > > LOA --17' 5" ..............The Montgomery 17 is 17 > > feet 4 inches > > without the mount > > LWL -- 15' 5" ...............The Montgomery 17 is 15 > > feet 6 inches... > > BEAM -- 7' 5"................The Montgomery 17 is 7 > > feet 7 inches wide > > DRAFT, Board up -- 1' 6" > > DRAFT, Board down -- 4' 3" > > Displacement -- 1100 lbs. ........The Montgomery 17 > > weighs 1650 pounds. > > More material > > > > more ballast and a > > stronger boat. Boats cost per pound to > > > > build. 1100 pounds > > is really flimsy for boat that size. > > > > Ballast -- 350 lbs...wow.! The P-18 has slighty more > > ballast than a > > Montgomery 15..! > > This > > tells us that the > > Precision 18 will be very tender. The > > > > Montgomery 17 has 600 pounds > > of pure lead ballast. No > > wonder > > it is so seaworthy > > and will go to weather. > > > > Sail area -- 145 sq. ft. .....the Precision 18 has a > > fractional rig..the > > M_17 has a proper > > masthead > > rig. > > > > Mast height above DWL -- 27' > > Designer: -- Jim Taylor...............never heard > > of him. Lyle C. Hess > > designed the M_17. > > > > Nuff said.... > > > > As I said before your welcome to come visit Jeff... > > > > Fair winds > > Bob > > (949) 489-8227 > > www.montgomeryboats.com > > > > > > > > Jeff Flancer wrote: > > > > >Hi all, My name is Jeff. I am looking at buying a > > new or used M-17. I used to have a 1982 M-15. Good > > boat, no doubt, but I need something a little bigger > > (for 2 young boys & wife) so they can enjoy, and > > newer, so I can enjoy(and not maintan too much). I > > am also considering a Precision 18 and wonder if > > there is any "unbiased" (wrong group I know) > > opinions on either boat. I live in Phoenix, AZ, > > and was a subscriber to this group in the past. > > >Happy days to you all. Jeff Flancer > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
