Hi John, Another thought....
If you go to Bill's Montgomery photo site, you will find pictures of my Tool Box Galley that I used on our M15. It contains everything two people need for cooking and eating on board. Pots and pans; dishes; glasses; cutlery; a cutting board; and all the galley tools you need for comfortable living afloat. I used a single burner propane stove - the type restaurants use for preparing a flaming dish at the table. It stows easily; the propane tank is disconnected from the stove when it is not in use, and it does a great job (about $30.-) The Tool Box Galley has two other important uses, other than on board the boat. We always use it when going on a trip by car; and it is a marvelous back-up device for when there is a power outage, which happens frequently enough in Connecticut. When you stop at a Rest Stop on the Interstate, pull out the Tool Box Galley, spread your table cloth on the picnic table; open the Galley, pull out the cutting board / salad bowl / and the fixin's from your cold chest, and dine elegantly. We don't travel without it. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi John, > > If you go back in the Montgomery archives, you will find an article by > an M15 owner and his wife about their several weeks long trip up the > West Coast from Seattle, ..north. They carried all they needed for > the trip; food; fuel; water; and augmented their supplies with fish > that they caught. > > So, if it can be done by two on an M15, doing it on an M17 should be > almost luxurious. > > As for staying at KOA camp grounds with the boat on the trailer, and > sleeping aboard, it's worth the price of admission to see the faces of > the regular campers when you climb in and out of your M17 cockpit. > They have never seen something like that before. > > My wife and I spent a night aboard on our Bolger MICRO at a Rockland, > ME camp ground years ago, and it was extremely do-able. However, we > didn't want to eat in the cockpit, so my wife sent me off to get a > proper table cloth for the picnic table we had next to the boat > trailer. I drove to Rockland; found a Thrift Store; bought a nice > table cloth, two linen napkins; and a glass protected candle holder, > with candle - for the proper ambiance. > > Then we unlimbered our propane stove, cooked dinner on one end of the > picnic table, and ate in splendor off china plates with good wine > glasses, by candle light, as the other campers gawked at the strange > birds in their midst. > > The campground showers, toilets and sinks made life simple and pleasant. > > Connie > ex M15 #400 > > John Merrell wrote: >> Morning Eldor and Dorothy, >> Thanks for your good words. You're absolutely correct. You can >> make just about anything work for you if you have the passion. >> That's one of the reasons we're looking for a small trailerable >> sailboat; we don't need a big boat, nor can we afford the expense of >> a larger boat that isn't trailerable. If were going to liveaboard, >> that would be an entirely different situation. >> We're basically thinking about cruising the ICW and staying on the >> hook for not more than three nights, then seek a marina. We will be >> spending most of our time in the cockpit, and likely a generous >> amount of time motoring. We might venture out on those occassions we >> have a weather window and the passage is not too long. But I have >> enough sailing experience to know, if you go often enough, you're >> going to get caught in weather. Having a solid seaworthy boat and a >> reasonably capable crew is absolutely necessary for survival. >> I would think we would have ample room for a couple of solar >> showers, bottled water enough for drinking and rinsing off, some >> canned goods, coffee maker, small stove, room for trash, naturally >> the portapot, clothes enough for freshness and a stanction mounted SS >> BBQ for grilling in the cockpit. For longer cruises down a river such >> as the Tennessee Tombridge heading for Mobile would be more >> challenging; I'm not sure what's available along that route as far as >> marinas and places to get into for stores and such? >> We're still working to see if we can't find an M17 owner close >> enough to us to view....again thanks for your response...happy >> sailing..John and Joy >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:24 AM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >> >> >> >>> I know our Mboat is configured differently from most but the basics >>> are the >>> same. We spent 6 days cruising the San Jauns in 2007 and plan to >>> cruise for >>> two weeks in 2009. If it is something you really enjoy, you'll find >>> a way to >>> fit. We did win the Sardine Award in 2007. >>> >>> Eldor and Dorothy Eisen >>> M-17 Motu iti >>> fixed keel >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 11/16/2008 7:11:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>> >>> Morning Jim, >>> Thanks for your comments; if a big guy like you can be comfortable >>> in the >>> M17 cabin, surely I can manage at 6'1" and 225lbs. However, there >>> will be >>> two of us, my wife Joy is 5'2" and less than half my weight, so is >>> there >>> enough room for spending several nights on the hook? This is our >>> most basic >>> question. From what everyone is telling us, this is not a problem. >>> We are anxious to locate an M17 we can see for ourselves....thanks for >>> your comments...John >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Poulakis" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:02 AM >>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >>> >>> >>> >>>> John, >>>> I'm 6'4" 230# and can sit in the M17 cabin seats without having my >>>> head touch the cabin top. I put a foam floatation cushion behind my >>>> back to position myself away from the side deck. >>>> >>>> As far as comfort goes, you gotta be kinda philosophical when it >>>> comes to the M15 and M17 cabin. Sarge, if you've ever spent time in >>>> a Vietnam era pup-tent then you'll find the interior of a Montgomery >>>> to be downright luxurious. >>>> >>>> Jim Poulakis >>>> M-17 "Spirit" >>>> >>>> On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:13 PM, John Merrell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Evening Joe, >>>>> Thanks very much for your response. I'm curious however, how >>>>> tall are >>>>> you? I'm 6'1" @ 225lbs; is there ample room for this old retired >>>>> sargeant? >>>>> I've always thought the Norsea 27 one of the prettiest boats >>>>> afloat. The >>>>> other boat I always admired was the Flicka 20. The closest I got >>>>> to either >>>>> of them was a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30; that was a few >>>>> years >>>>> ago. >>>>> What we hope to do is utilize a trailerable "pocket crusier" as >>>>> both a >>>>> means to explore various waterways, lakes and rivers, and to use it >>>>> as a >>>>> land camper. I know it may sound rediculous, but if you can sleep >>>>> in it >>>>> comfortably on the water with a portapotti and solar shower, you can >>>>> certainly sleep aboard on land at a KOA campgrounds. >>>>> We can't quite afford to purchase a new boat, but we hope to find >>>>> a good >>>>> clean used boat in the $10K price range. Of course, we need to see >>>>> one >>>>> before we put our money down. I realize these boats are highly >>>>> sought >>>>> after, and they don't last long once put up for sale. However, it's >>>>> possible the M17 wouldn't work for us? >>>>> Again thanks for your time and good information....John >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Joe Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:36 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> John, >>>>>> You'll not be disappointed with the M-17. I bought mine this >>>>>> summer sight >>>>>> unseen. The only time I saw one was 4 years ago at a Lyle Hess >>>>>> Rendevous >>>>>> up >>>>>> in Solomons MD. At the time I had a NorSea 27 and spent most of >>>>>> my time >>>>>> talking with other NorSea owners but I couldn't help checking out >>>>>> these >>>>>> other little sisters, the Montgomery boats. >>>>>> I opted for the four round ports to get some cross through >>>>>> ventilation. I >>>>>> live on the NC coast and it can be nearly tropical at times. >>>>>> The interior is workable. I sit on the port side berth facing aft >>>>>> with my >>>>>> legs up stretched out. I find it to be pretty comfortable. The V >>>>>> berth >>>>>> is >>>>>> very comfortable. The compression post doesn't really get in the >>>>>> way and >>>>>> serves as a good hand hold to spin around to get out of bed. >>>>>> There is >>>>>> great >>>>>> storage room and everything is pretty easy to get to. True, you >>>>>> can't >>>>>> stand >>>>>> up unless the hatch is open. >>>>>> If you decide to buy one from the factory you will find Bob Eeg >>>>>> extremely >>>>>> easy to work with and very accessible. Figure on 6-8 weeks >>>>>> start to >>>>>> splash. >>>>>> Good luck with your search. >>>>>> Joe >>>>>> Seafrog M-17 >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "John Merrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:12 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Afternoon Dave, >>>>>>> Thanks for your response. I understand, if you see a lot of >>>>>>> anything on >>>>>>> the market it's probably because folks don't like them that >>>>>>> much. But we >>>>>>> need to physically see one before we make any decisions to buy >>>>>>> one. >>>>>>> That's why we're researching owners' in the hopes of finding >>>>>>> some one >>>>>>> within 150 or so of us(Mentone Alabama) that would allow us to >>>>>>> take a >>>>>>> look. >>>>>>> Thanks for your time....John >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "W David Scobie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:57 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> john & joy: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i'm a M15 owner (wishing to 'move up' to the 17). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sleeping - the forward v-berth is the location. the compression >>>>>>> post does >>>>>>> 'split' the berth. the 1/4 berths are good for seating, not adult >>>>>>> sleeping. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> seating - one can sit in the 17 no problem (unless you are long >>>>>>> in body >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> over 6'4"). one cannot stand when in the cabin. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> overnighting - if you work well together one can do multiple >>>>>>> weeks/months >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the 17 ... but my perspective is from the M15 and tent-camping. >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Mboats >>>>>>> can carry more stuff than you can really need ... under the >>>>>>> berths, the >>>>>>> stern end of the quarterberths and cockpit locters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> potty: under the v-berth, starboard side of the compression post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> steel centerboard & ballast - only the older boats the the steel. >>>>>>> the new >>>>>>> boats are lead. the current model M15 & M17 use the same >>>>>>> centerboard. see >>>>>>> SCRED's www-site for a page about the steel centerboard/ballast >>>>>>> and the >>>>>>> M17 >>>>>>> (link below). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you are correct that there are not many used M17s available ... >>>>>>> there is >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> reason for this. they are GREAT boats! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dave scobie >>>>>>> M15 #288 - SCRED >>>>>>> visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Sat, 11/15/08, John Merrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>> We're researching various trailerable "pocket cruisers" such as >>>>>>> the Montgomery 17, ComPac Sun Cat, Precision 18 and Catalina 18 >>>>>>> MK II. >>>>>>> Since >>>>>>> Montgomery sells direct to the public from California, it's >>>>>>> difficult to >>>>>>> view on of these fine boats. With that said, we're soon to be >>>>>>> retired >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> want to do some "trailer sailing" to enhance our retirement >>>>>>> activities. Having owned a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30, >>>>>>> we have >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> sailing experience. >>>>>>> We've emailed Montgomery with some questions, but we'd prefer to >>>>>>> obtain information from M17 owners. One of our first questions >>>>>>> is does >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> cabin have sufficient room for two adults to spend 3 to 4 nights >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> hook? >>>>>>> How much sitting headroom is there, especially where the head is >>>>>>> located? >>>>>>> How >>>>>>> long and wide are the berths? Without opening ports, is there >>>>>>> enough >>>>>>> ventalation, or would dorades be a good idea? What about the >>>>>>> steel >>>>>>> centerboard; >>>>>>> is maintenance difficult and what all is required to keep it >>>>>>> working >>>>>>> properly? >>>>>>> We realize we're asking a lot of questions, but Montgomery's are >>>>>>> expensive new and there doesn't seem to be many pre-owned M17's >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> market. Again, it's difficult to find one to even look over. So >>>>>>> we are >>>>>>> hoping we can find some help through this avenue. >>>>>>> Early thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>>>> Sincerely, John and Joy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>>>> montgomery_boats >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>>>> montgomery_boats >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. 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