Evening Joe,
  Thanks very much for your response.  I'm curious however, how tall are 
you? I'm 6'1" @ 225lbs; is there ample room for this old retired sargeant?
  I've always thought the Norsea 27 one of the prettiest boats afloat.  The 
other boat I always admired was the Flicka 20.  The closest I got to either 
of them was a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30; that was a few years 
ago.
  What we hope to do is utilize a trailerable "pocket crusier" as both a 
means to explore various waterways, lakes and rivers, and to use it as a 
land camper.  I know it may sound rediculous, but if you can sleep in it 
comfortably on the water with a portapotti and solar shower, you can 
certainly sleep aboard on land at a KOA campgrounds.
  We can't quite afford to purchase a new boat, but we hope to find a good 
clean used boat in the $10K price range.  Of course, we need to see one 
before we put our money down.  I realize these boats are highly sought 
after, and they don't last long once put up for sale.  However, it's 
possible the M17 wouldn't work for us?
  Again thanks for your time and good information....John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17


> John,
> You'll not be disappointed with the M-17.  I bought mine this summer sight
> unseen.  The only time I saw one was 4 years ago at a Lyle Hess Rendevous 
> up
> in Solomons MD.  At the time I had a NorSea 27 and spent most of my time
> talking with other NorSea owners but I couldn't help checking out these
> other little sisters, the Montgomery boats.
> I opted for the four round ports to get some cross through ventilation.  I
> live on the NC coast and it can be nearly tropical at times.
> The interior is workable.  I sit on the port side berth facing aft with my
> legs up stretched out.  I find it to be pretty comfortable.  The V berth 
> is
> very comfortable. The compression post doesn't really get in the way and
> serves as a good hand hold to spin around to get out of bed.  There is 
> great
> storage room and everything is pretty easy to get to.  True, you can't 
> stand
> up unless the hatch is open.
> If you decide to buy one from the factory you will find Bob Eeg extremely
> easy to work with and very accessible.  Figure on 6-8 weeks start to 
> splash.
> Good luck with your search.
> Joe
> Seafrog M-17
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Merrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17
>
>
>> Afternoon Dave,
>>  Thanks for your response.  I understand, if you see a lot of anything on
>> the market it's probably because folks don't like them that much.  But we
>> need to physically see one before we make any decisions to buy one.
>>  That's why we're researching owners' in the hopes of finding some one
>> within 150 or so of us(Mentone Alabama) that would allow us to take a
>> look.
>>  Thanks for your time....John
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "W David Scobie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17
>>
>>
>> john & joy:
>>
>> i'm a M15 owner (wishing to 'move up' to the 17).
>>
>> sleeping - the forward v-berth is the location. the compression post does
>> 'split' the berth. the 1/4 berths are good for seating, not adult
>> sleeping.
>>
>> seating - one can sit in the 17 no problem (unless you are long in body
>> and
>> over 6'4"). one cannot stand when in the cabin.
>>
>> overnighting - if you work well together one can do multiple weeks/months
>> in
>> the 17 ... but my perspective is from the M15 and tent-camping. the 
>> Mboats
>> can carry more stuff than you can really need ... under the berths, the
>> stern end of the quarterberths and cockpit locters.
>>
>> potty: under the v-berth, starboard side of the compression post.
>>
>> steel centerboard & ballast - only the older boats the the steel. the new
>> boats are lead. the current model M15 & M17 use the same centerboard. see
>> SCRED's www-site for a page about the steel centerboard/ballast and the
>> M17
>> (link below).
>>
>> you are correct that there are not many used M17s available ... there is 
>> a
>> reason for this. they are GREAT boats!
>>
>>
>> dave scobie
>> M15 #288 - SCRED
>> visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred
>>
>> --- On Sat, 11/15/08, John Merrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>  We're researching various trailerable "pocket cruisers" such as
>> the Montgomery 17, ComPac Sun Cat, Precision 18 and Catalina 18 MK II.
>> Since
>> Montgomery sells direct to the public from California, it's difficult to
>> view on of these fine boats.  With that said, we're soon to be retired 
>> and
>> want to do some "trailer sailing" to enhance our retirement
>> activities.  Having owned a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30, we have
>> some
>> sailing experience.
>>  We've emailed Montgomery with some questions, but we'd prefer to
>> obtain information from M17 owners.  One of our first questions is does
>> the
>> cabin have sufficient room for two adults to spend 3 to 4 nights on the
>> hook?
>> How much sitting headroom is there, especially where the head is located?
>> How
>> long and wide are the berths?  Without opening ports, is there enough
>> ventalation, or would dorades be a good idea?  What about the steel
>> centerboard;
>> is maintenance difficult and what all is required to keep it working
>> properly?
>>  We realize we're asking a lot of questions, but Montgomery's are
>> expensive new and there doesn't seem to be many pre-owned M17's on the
>> market.  Again, it's difficult to find one to even look over.  So we are
>> hoping we can find some help through this avenue.
>>  Early thanks for any help you can provide.
>> Sincerely, John and Joy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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