Phil...
your memo is filled with great ideas. i like the idea of being able to see photos of things other MoPoers want to show off. i have taken your advice and set up my subfolder for MoPo messages exclusively.
 Richard

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From: Phil Edwards Cinemarts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Phil Edwards Cinemarts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sending pictures through MOPO?
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:50:28 +1000

One solution is to create a sub folder in your local folders for MOPO emails. That way all MOPO emails go straight to that sub-folder, not to the main inbox. One can then quickly sort through the emails, deleting the ones from people you don't want to read from, decide which FA/FS or WTBs you want to read, decide if you want to read any marked OT and so on.

As far as sending images.... the sort of images Rich has used are fine. They are no different than the numerous bits of illustrative stuff that come from eBay or any number of advertorial sites, whether it be Verve Records or Amazon, etc.

Most browsers (well the ones designed for the use of people who think a bit) have a variety of image blocking options, allowing the user to decide for themselves as some of those html images have data miners, cookies and the like.

As for attaching jpgs, people have to know how t properly re-size an image to be a small file. Anyone on dialup - and there are still plenty - know the pain of waiting for that 2mb poster image to download, and what it reminds them of.

If people want to show images, then why not simply have the link to where the image is stored, such as a Photobucket or Imageshack free picture hosting service. This also gives the choice of whether one wants to go look or not, just as with links to FS and FA offers.

Of course attaching images will course all sorts of problems with AOL users who have their filters set too high, and many webmail servers strip all attachments as a a matter of course.

Phil


.JR wrote:
Scott,

Ah, but you *still *have to download the images in order to display the message on your computer, even if the email does "just" contain links to pictures on a web page somewhere -- it still takes time for your computer to retrieve those images from the web page and display them in the body of the message on your home computer. Like I said, this is no big deal if one or two people do it, but if all the sellers on MOPO were to start doing it, it would clog up my inbox something fierce. Also, while Rich does a great job of optimizing his images so they are very small file size and download fairly quick, how long would it be before less-skilled or less-courteous people start sending this list messages with the latest 4 megabyte monster-size pictures they just took with their new digital cameras? And if this trend becomes a fad, it would not be limited to sellers -- anyone can create such messages. In no time at all, this list could be flooded with "Hey, look at the great new p!
os!
ter I just won" images or "Hey, does this poster look right to you guys?" messages. If that situation were to develop, it would impact my business during the day, which relies on timely receipt of emails, so I would have to consider unsubscribing from MOPO... now wait a dang minute...don't you people go taking that as the *best* reason yet to start putting images into your messages!

But, seriously, I think this is a very bad idea. If Scott doesn't have a strong opinion on the matter, then I'd like to suggest a poll... formal or informal... on whether pictures in MOPO email should be allowed. I vote no.

-- JR


----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 17:48
Subject: RE: [MOPO] Sending pictures through MOPO?



Banning pictures from MoPo wasn't the real reason for blocking attachments
from the listserv. It was the danger of viruses being distributed to list
members as attachments.

In the case of Rich's post (and others) the use of HTML simply directs the reader's computer via an embedded URL to a web site to retrieve the image. Images are not actually part of the post. With many of us now connected to
the 'net all the time with high speed connections, our mail programs
automatically read the HTML e-mail just as they would any web page and
display the images based on the HTML code.

This shouldn't slow down the download of e-mail since the images are only
loaded when you view that message, that is open it in your e-mail program.

The only thing you can do to not see the HTML generated images is to read
your mail while off-line, then your program can't go out and retrieve them. I believe you can also set your mail program to not display HTML or images.

I don't really have a problem with HTML e-mail like this since I get many
commercial ones every day in HTML format.

I haven't heard of any cases where viruses have been transmitted this way.
Does anyone know of such a case?

Scott
MoPo List Owner


-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JR
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:42 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Sending pictures through MOPO?


MoviePosterBid.com Special Event Poster AuctionLately, several
people... including my buddy Rich over at MPB... have been
sending pictures through to this list embedded in their FA
announcements (the pictures are embedded in the HTML code of the
message so that the pictures get past the MOPO server's "no
attachments" filter). I for one really don't like this. I get a
lot of email each day, and adding pictures to the HTML code
really slows things down when I download my messages. It's no big
deal when only one person does it, but if all the sellers on MOPO
were to start doing so it would be a real mess. And, if a few
sellers do it, then why shouldn't the others? I'd really like to
see this trend nipped in the bud and from what I've seen there
are quite a few others who feel the same way.

Since Scott has put on the "no attachments" filter for MOPO, I
believe that means he intended for no pictures to be sent to this
list, and just because some new technique now allows the filter
to be bypassed does not mean his intentions should be bypassed.
Scott, I know you are busy, but could you express an opinion or
guideline on embedding pictures in the HTML of messages sent to MOPO?

-- JR

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