There are also all sorts of tricks copyright holders use to prevent
their product from goin public domain. Turner managed to essentially get
It's A Wonderful Life out of the public domain by re-copyrighting the
underlying music used in the film. Thus although the film itself had
lapsed and was not renewed because the underlying music was copyright
and required permission from Turner to use it, the film became protected
again. 
 
It's nothing new. Prokofiev didn't want his ballet scores from becoming
public domain so he added a few notes here and there to his scores in
the 1930s and 1940s and managed to somehow claim a new version of the
score which was published by Schmirer's Music. Hence the start date of
the copyright began anew on most of his widely played ballet scores.  
 
FRANC

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At 10:34 AM 8/24/2008, CK MacLeod wrote:


Interesting observations, Rich.  I always enjoy getting the benefit of
your experience in copyright-related issues.  (BTW, on that note, would
you agree with me that Ron's interpretation of First Sale is ill-founded
in the case of "stolen" goods?)


Concerning posters etc.
there is a Federal law & there are state laws concerning theft of
property.

In New York there is an art & antiquities law that concerns theft. If
you are the victim of a theft of a Rembrandt painting in 1971, however
because the painting was in your basement and you haven't been down
there since 1965 and this year you discover it is missing, the clock on
Statute of Limitations does not start running until you discover the
theft and then the 5 year statute begins. So being stolen in 1971
doesn't mean anything necessarily. Furthermore, you can keep the statute
alive past 5 years as long as you can prove that you are continuing to
pursue the return of the painting. That can entail just a single letter
for instance to a gallery owner asking if he has been able to track the
painting just one time a year. The law constitutes that as an activity
on your part to retrieve the art and when or if  it does come back up.

However, by that law, if you discover the theft, never report it and
never pursue it's return, you could be relenquishing any claim to the
art in the future.. It's called "abandonment of property" So by that
standard, the Producers of movie posters for instance are most likely
abandoning their property through inaction

Also, copyright has become a very convoluted situation since the many
revisals of copyright law by Congress during the past 30 years

There is quite a bit of material that had been in the public domain
under old law that has been recaptured due to newer laws.

Disney & Universal are serious beneficiaries of this. There is a whole
segment of Disney material in print & on film that was recaptured and
under old copyright law, all of the Universal Horrors would have fallen
into PD years ago had Congress - ushered by and lobbied by Disney for
one and many corps otherwise - not taken the laws under review &
extended copyright protections. For instance, Frankenstein would have
been PD in 1988 (28+28 years), but now won't be PD until sometime
between 2015 & 2020 which is an extension of 30 years +/- from original
law which stood for more than 200 years.

>From the public's view, it is an ill-focused waste of Congress's time.
But it follows the philosophy of government to protect corporations from
being affected by the same benefits they themselves have benefited from.
You don't think that any publisher pays royalties to the Mark Twain or
Shakespeare estates do you?? Or that Disney pays anything to the Jacob
Ludwig Carl Grimm family for Snow White or that Universal paid one penny
to the estate of Mary Shelley in 1931, and yet these companies have made
100s of millions of dollars off the backs of these people.

I'm waiting for these companies and Congress to create new law yet which
would entail permanent copyright status for all corporations until the
end of time, even as these companies use material - for which they will
continue to pay nothing - from people who have no such protections.

Keep in mind that one thing that happens - and Disney being one of the
most benefited - is that soon before something is to go PD, these
companies lobby again for a lengthier time period of copyright
protection and because they can afford to pay tens of millions to lobby
the lawmakers - while smaller entities, including individuals cannot
afford the same and are left out in the cold. This is how the copyright
laws have been re-written every few years since 1978 extending further
and further protections to those who can afford to lobby



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