Thanks, Mr. Spock, for adressing the logic of my argument.  

At first you shoot it down, and then you reiterate it!  The only issue is the 
definition of "expensive".  Since the cost is fixed (about $10) and not 
dependent on the cost of the item -- the cost becomes insignificant as the 
poster becomes more expensive.  For me, the break even point is about $50 -- 
and so I've stopped looking at stuff much cheaper than that.

Your point about 2 auctions with different shipping is bogus -- and i am sure 
you knew it when you typed it!  This case does not happen for vintage posters 
-- certainly on eBay.  The posters are different, the dealers are different, 
and the end times are different, etc. And suppose the one with Free shipping 
closes AFTER the one with $10 shipping -- are you going to pass on the first 
Maltese Falcoln so that you can save $10 (and what happens if the first one 
goes cheap, because everyone else is waiting for the second? how would you feel 
then!).  

This is the auction problem!  How do you order the lots in order to get the 
buyers to pay the most for them.  A related problem is how to bid on items at 
an auction when you have fixed amount of money and the items you are interested 
do not appear in the order of your preference!

As for Heritage -- the issue is not the cost of shipping, but rather the 
buyer's premium -- which as well all know is NOT fixed, but rather grows as the 
cost of the item grows.

Finally, this is not a "logical" issue.  If it was, then all auction houses 
would bundle the fees together, and when the auctioneer says sold for $100, you 
would get the item (including shipping to your home) for $100.  Obviously the 
houses understand that you will pay more if they itemize -- otherwise they 
would strive for simplicity and clarity.  Not to mention they would only have 
to explain to the consigners that they were only getting 60% of the hammer!

Evan
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From: Claude Litton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Evan's reply is illogical when he states that he does not factor the cost of 
shipping into what he will pay for a poster.  If what he says is true then he 
must only bid on very expensive posters but I doubt that because as an example 
he cites $50 for a poster.  At that price postage is a definite factor to be 
considered. In any case, shipping is a cost to be considered.  He states that 
regardless of the shipping he will not pay $51 if he made up his mind to bid 
$50.  

I ask him--------If two posters are up for auction that you want and are 
willing to pay $50 for each----------Will you bid exactly $50 for each if one 
states shipping is $10 and the other states shipping is Free?  

I just purchased two posters at auctions.  I paid $727 for a poster from Bruce 
H and I never factored shipping in while I was bidding.  Postage for this 
poster was irrelevant to me when bidding.  (As an aside, Bruce Hershenson spent 
$20.50 in postage plus the cost of the tube and the labor in packing and only 
charged me $9 for shipping.)

I bought a poster from Heritage for less than $45 and paid around $18 in 
shipping (very well packed and a large flat).  The price was fair for both 
(even if Bruce had charged the full amount).

My point here is simple.  I paid no attention to the shipping cost with the 
poster from Bruce because I was willing to pay more than the final price (I bid 
higher but the other person stopped at $702).  I definitely factored in the 
shipping price with Heritage because I did not want to exceed $85 for the 
poster so I placed a bid around $65.  Shipping becomes minor as the price of 
the poster increases.

In any case, this is another situation where ebay is making changes to 
strengthen their bottom line without giving the consequences the necessary 
serious thought.
As Bruce H said recently--------This is the best example of a mismanaged 
company.

Claude Litton








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