You're absolultely right, Greg. WHAT was I thinking of???? How could I have forgotten Ernest Borgnine?? All the best, Judith
Judith Weaver 1457 Guava Avenue Melbourne, FL 32935 321-514-4861 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jbirddouglass" <jbirddougl...@cox.net> To: "Judith Weaver" <judith_wea...@hotmail.com> Cc: <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Adam Lanbert > As a professional musician...and let me hasten to say that makes me an > expert on absolutely NOTHING, except movie posters... I am not envious > of Lambert. (I am very envious of the dough he'll be making, however!) > From what I've heard of him...and I listened to more stuff to become > more educated, by the way...his marvelous pipes are being used to commit > what my ears hear as musical felonies. As far as being > homophobic,...let's see, I watched "Brokeback Mountain" in a theater > full of gay guys in SAN FRANCISCO (with my wife, I might add, the only > person with ovaries in the theater), I'm not afraid to wear a fanny pack > in public, and, oh yeah, I have a remarkably eclectic group of friends > who I dearly love that includes various homosexual folk, straight people > (both liberal AND conservative), cross-dressers, my best friend, and > other assorted weirdos, so I don't think THAT'S it. That being said, I > honest-to-God kept waiting for Lambert to burst into flame at any > second. I'm sorry, the dude makes Liberace look like Clint Eastwood in > "The Unforgiven". > Finally, Judith, how can you say "Why are all the gorgeous men gay?" > What about Ernest Borgnine? > Seriously, though, Judith, it's just a case of differing tastes. While I > freely admit to a bias against all things "American Idol", Lambert made > me especially mental. I applaud your admiration and lust for the young > lad and wish him well, as long as he stays off my television. > Greg Douglass > > Judith Weaver wrote: > > As a woman, Adam Lambert is just another example of "Why are all the > > gorgeous men gay?" He is without a doubt a HUNK! And I don't know > > another female who doesn't agree. My hairdresser claims to be completely > > and totally IN LOVE with him. Personally, I think I'm merely IN LUST with > > him. > > > > There's another aspect to this: Adam and his manager, etc., were thrilled > > he didn't win top spot. Now he's not obligated to Amer. Idol for the next 2 > > years to do ribbon-cutting ceremonies at the new A&P in Podunk, Iowa, etc. > > He'll be on Broadway very soon. He's a first-class performer, an artist > > (many of the arrangements were his, others were Ricky Miner's), and a > > powerful set of pipes. Oh, and did I mention that he is a gorgeous > > HUNK??!!?!?!?! > > > > Are you guys out there who dislike him envious or merely homophobic? Judith > > > > Judith Weaver > > 1457 Guava Avenue > > Melbourne, FL 32935 > > 321-514-4861 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jbirddouglass" <jbirddougl...@cox.net> > > To: <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Adam Lanbert > > > > > > > >> Hi Zeev, > >> I rarely watch "American Idol", but I did happen to see Adam Lambert do > >> "Ring of Fire". My take was that the guy has a superb set of pipes, but > >> he ruined...no, make that nuked... a wonderful song with his > >> over-the-top vocal histrionics. I hated his arrangement (as I noted here > >> before, my wife asked me, "What did you think of that?" I replied, "It > >> was...well, flaming.") but it's impossible to ignore the guy's vocal > >> chops. I think that show has put so much emphasis on that Mariah > >> Carey-like, "Hey watch what I can do!" over-singing that these kids end > >> up masturbating all over the song to impress those four mean-spirited > >> nitwits. There's simply no art in it. As a guitarist, I value economy in > >> my playing, the right note at the right time. I rarely see that on A.I. > >> As I said, that's the ONLY song I saw him sing, so my overview of the > >> lad's talent is pretty myopic. > >> As to why he lost...Lambert's absolutely as gay as a handbag full of > >> rainbows, despite his coyness in the press. As Proposition 8 in > >> California (and Miss California herself!) revealed, many people are not > >> comfortable with that sexual orientation, especially when it is > >> expressed with such flamboyance in their living rooms. From what I'd > >> heard from fans of the show, I thought the guy was a shoe-in for the top > >> spot, but I think people underestimated this nation's capacity for > >> pettiness and narrow-minded thinking. I do think that Lambert is a smart > >> guy who will parlay all the hoopla into a decent career. > >> Thank you, Zeev, for asking, and I'm going to go tell my wife that > >> someone referred to me as a "maven" about something other than American > >> International posters from the Fifties!!! > >> Greg Douglass > >> lobby card invasion wrote: > >> > >>> Greg, you're in the music biz, and a Mavin in my books. > >>> > >>> I'm interested in your take as to the merits of Adam Lambert (American > >>> Idol runner up) as a singer and a performer, and why he failed in the > >>> final vote. > >>> > >>> Zeev > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jbirddouglass" > >>> <jbirddougl...@cox.net> > >>> To: <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:00 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle losing > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> And into the fray steps G.D..... > >>>> Carrie Underwood has a fantastic voice, but I would rather give oral > >>>> pleasure to Oprah Winfrey than listen to Modern Pop Country, which, > >>>> as a genre of music, makes me break out in itchy, pus-spewing hives. > >>>> Underwood has a first-class set of pipes but is using them to sing, > >>>> in THIS man's opinion, crap music. Shame on her. Give me Billy Joe > >>>> Shaver or Kasey Chambers for country with balls (or in Chambers' > >>>> case, ovaries. Her "Barricades and Brick Walls" tune makes me think > >>>> about every psychotic ex-girlfriend I ever dated.). > >>>> Kellie Clarkson is nowhere near the singer that Underwood is, she's > >>>> gotten fat and weird, but I love her early, dumb teen rock singles. > >>>> It's crap, but to moi, it's GREAT crap. It makes me act like Tom > >>>> Cruise dancing around in his underwear in "Risky Business" (I know, > >>>> TMI!). It's pure junk, but it's junk that moves me, kind of like the > >>>> musical equivalent of an Ed Wood film. > >>>> Susan Boyle? I hope she makes a lot of money, very quickly. She'll > >>>> need it to pay for that prolonged stay in the mental institution > >>>> she's destined for after dealing with the music business for a couple > >>>> of years. Give me a call, Susie-sweetie-baby-cookie. We need to talk. > >>>> In the end, arguing about music with somebody is like trying to teach > >>>> a pig to dance; it's frustrating for you, and it's annoying to the > >>>> pig. That being said, I still love to do it, and I will be hurt and > >>>> confused for weeks if Rich doesn't send me a personal e-mail with the > >>>> subject "Kellie Clarkson Stinks!" > >>>> Back to movies...I saw "Up!" yesterday, and it's not just another > >>>> home run for Pixar, it's a grand slam. Funny, moving, and there are > >>>> lots of visual references to other films and pop images, the most > >>>> obvious being the "King Kong" Empire State Building scene and the > >>>> classic painting you see everywhere of dogs playing poker. I can't > >>>> imagine anyone but the most curmudgeonly, fault-finding naysayer not > >>>> liking this one. > >>>> Greg Douglass > >>>> Also of Scottish ancestry, and proud of it, despite that extra "S" on > >>>> my name...(it's a long story...) > >>>> Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Kelly Clarkson stinks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> At 10:19 PM 6/1/2009, Jeff Potokar wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> hi judith, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regardless of rich's opinions on who the most listen to and who > >>>>>> stinks.. one has to remember, this is only one guy's opinion, is > >>>>>> not founded in fact, and would mean little to anyone who enjoys any > >>>>>> of the artists he commented on. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Underwood is primarily a country artist... and there are MANY who > >>>>>> do not listen to this kind of music (just there are many that dont > >>>>>> listen to pop, rap, jazz, classical etc). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> kelly clarkson, in my opinion, has a voice perfectly suited to the > >>>>>> type of music she sings and does not stink. she's had many hits on > >>>>>> the soft rock and pop charts and has a vibrant charisma (as does > >>>>>> Underwood). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> jeff > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Judith Weaver wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> *And the one who got kicked out early, Jennifer Hudson, has done > >>>>>>> more than all the rest put together. And she is talented. > >>>>>>> * Judith Weaver > >>>>>>> 1457 Guava Avenue > >>>>>>> Melbourne, FL 32935 > >>>>>>> 321-514-4861 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <mailto:sa...@comic-art.com> > >>>>>>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > >>>>>>> <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:00 PM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle losing > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the only Idol winner I think anybody really listens to is Carrie > >>>>>>> Underwood who is a fabulous singer > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kelly Clarkson stinks > >>>>>>> Ruben Stoddard is blase > >>>>>>> Fantasia is forgotten > >>>>>>> Taylor Hicks was poorly managed > >>>>>>> etc etc etc > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> but Carrie Underwood is fabulous & has a long career ahead of > >>>>>>> > > her > > > >>>>>>> At 11:39 AM 5/31/2009, Michael Greenwood wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think what this thread needs is a good dose of (youngish) > >>>>>>>> blood and reality. Forget Susan Boyle now and beat the > >>>>>>>> rest of the pack by a few months. Who listens to Kelly > >>>>>>>> Clarkson? The joke is on anybody who thinks this is real > >>>>>>>> talent and (insert favourite deity/celebrity here) help us > >>>>>>>> if the Martians invade and hold these examples up as > >>>>>>>> Earth's premium cultural exports. What has happened to our > >>>>>>>> tastes? Are we really that lazy? > >>>>>>>> Please, dear world, avert your gaze from these shows and > >>>>>>>> invest your time and money supporting actually talented > >>>>>>>> singers and songwriters rather than glitzed-up amateurs > >>>>>>>> doing poorly executed covers of songs by, often, talented > >>>>>>>> and forgotten people. Disregard the outcomes and the > >>>>>>>> fickle fancies and support people who are worth investing > >>>>>>>> in and need it badly at this time in the music industry. > >>>>>>>> There is a ton of talent out there but you have to dig a > >>>>>>>> bit and realize that it is not going to get to you as > >>>>>>>> easily as your cable set-up and exposure on today's > >>>>>>>> commercial radio is also pathetic and near nil for great > >>>>>>>> talent and congested with crap, just like the current > >>>>>>>> cinema climate. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you must meet me halfway, go with the new Camera Obscura > >>>>>>>> album as they're Scottish and fantastic. I am available as > >>>>>>>> a tutor in the field of challenging and rewarding > >>>>>>>> contemporary music but I do not come cheap. > >>>>>>>> Yours for the asking, > >>>>>>>> Michael Greenwood > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 31-May-09, at 2:22 PM, Jeff Potokar wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> i agree with you judith. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> the dance group, Diversity, is a flash in the pan act > >>>>>>>>> (i just watched them and the final results clip on > >>>>>>>>> youtube).. and will be forgotten about in 3-6 months. > >>>>>>>>> because of the world wide attention Boyle received, > >>>>>>>>> (and talk about pressure), along with a pending > >>>>>>>>> recording contract, her name and voice will live on > >>>>>>>>> long after the 50-100 members of Diversity have gone > >>>>>>>>> their separate ways. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Judith Weaver wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Bruce, I couldn't agree with you more! She may > >>>>>>>>>> have been coached. I understand she has serious > >>>>>>>>>> learning disabilities and apparently broke down a > >>>>>>>>>> little recently under the pressure at some hotel > >>>>>>>>>> in London. I noticed in some of the clips I saw > >>>>>>>>>> of her during verbal exchanges with judges on the > >>>>>>>>>> show, she acted a tiny bit like a nervous > >>>>>>>>>> teen-ager rather than a nervous 47-year-old. But > >>>>>>>>>> I thought she was extremely gracious when the > >>>>>>>>>> winner was announced. And while I didn't hear > >>>>>>>>>> the winning group perform, it would be difficult > >>>>>>>>>> to convince me that they were better than Susan. > >>>>>>>>>> Susan didn't really lose, however. She made > >>>>>>>>>> > > more > > > >>>>>>>>>> of a splash around the world than anyone has on > >>>>>>>>>> that show. And I believe Simon Cowell is giving > >>>>>>>>>> her a recording contract with his record > >>>>>>>>>> company. I for one can't wait to buy her first > >>>>>>>>>> CD. Happy summer to all MOPOers! Judith > >>>>>>>>>> Judith Weaver > >>>>>>>>>> 1457 Guava Avenue > >>>>>>>>>> Melbourne, FL 32935 > >>>>>>>>>> 321-514-4861 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: Bruce Hershenson > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com> To: > >>>>>>>>>> MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Sent: > >>>>>>>>>> Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:19 AM Subject: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle > >>>>>>>>>> losing > >>>>>>>>>> Is it just me, or did anyone else think Susan > >>>>>>>>>> Boyle conducted herself really nicely during > >>>>>>>>>> losing? I liked how she handled herself > >>>>>>>>>> before, during and after her last > >>>>>>>>>> performance, and when they announced the > >>>>>>>>>> winner. It was almost as though someone had > >>>>>>>>>> coached her in exactly what to say and do. > >>>>>>>>>> And the winners left me cold. They remind > >>>>>>>>>> > > me > > > >>>>>>>>>> of those guys (Stomp?) who make music with > >>>>>>>>>> trash can lids. 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