so right, Ari..
anyone on ebay (or others) that offer COA's--take em for what they
are worth.. a 3 cent, printed piece of paper... they are worthless,
and dotn validate any item.
jeff
On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Ari Richards wrote:
I sell coins, bullion and banknotes for a living, and the company I
work for has been around 46 years, people often ask for a COA or
some written proof that what they are buying is real. I reply, sure
I can type you something, but its not the item, you could put that
COA with an apple, the proof is the item. So if you want it? sure,
when your ready to sell again (most of these people are into it for
investing and come back) - dont bother to bring the COA, we have
the knowledge to know what you have.
(not in those words - Im nicer in person )
So what Im saying is a COA is useless, cripes you could make your
own if you wanted,
Danke,
Ari
--- On Wed, 2/9/09, James Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
From: James Richard <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Poster Villains
To: [email protected]
Received: Wednesday, 2 September, 2009, 9:20 AM
Warranties are
all good
and well, but I'm maintaining that it in the future it
would be far
better for the hobby, the business, the auction houses and
dealers and
ultimately the buyers if independent, recognized (and
named) expert
verification were done for a very pricey item prior to it
being sold.
Such a verification would actually *enhance* the value of
the auction,
so how would the auction houses and dealers (or the
consigners) lose
with such a policy? And I'm sure it would make the
auction house's
insurance companies feel better. It would also give
confidence to the
buyers/bidders and they might be willing to pay more.
Going with strictly the warranty, it becomes the
responsibility of the
buyer to determine if he has been sold a fake or not.
That's not right.
Maybe he does get someone to verify, or maybe he mistakenly
takes the
auction house/dealer on their reputation and doesn't
bother. Or maybe
the buyer doesn't find out about the fake until after
the warranty has
expired. That's exactly the opposite of the way things
should work.
Keep the warranties, sure, but on very pricey items be able
to
auction/offer a MUMMY's HAND half-sheet with a
description that says
"This poster has been examined by recognized poster
expert
______________ who has determined to the best of his
ability that it is
a genuine original movie poster containing ___% original
paper. Mr
_____________ states that this is his best opinion but is
not legally
responsible for any loss or damage resulting from this
opinion or any
subsequent purchase of this item."
The lawyers can work out the exact wording.
I fail to understand why there is resistance to such a
simple and
effective idea.
-- JR
Franc wrote:
Message
I just decided to take a look at the
"limited
Warranty" provided by one the big auction houses. It
clearly reads that
the auction house " warrants for a period of 6 years
that any article
described in UPPER CASE TYPE which is unqualifiedly
stated to be the
work of a named author or authorship, is authentic and not
counterfeit." In other words the auction house is
responsible for this
warranty. Villian or not, the auction is clearly
responsible for
returning the full cost of the salet to the buyer by virtue
of this
warranty. FRANC
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On
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Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Poster Villains
Kudos to Steve
At 01:01 PM 9/1/2009, Stephen Fishler wrote:
Clearly,
there are
villains here who decided to CREATE some very valuable
posters in order
to line their pockets.
Having said that, let's not work overtime in order
point the finger of
blame where it clearly does not belong. There auction
houses that may
have sold fakes have acted responsibility here. They
are not the enemy.
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