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> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 17:36:31 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Poster Villains
> To: [email protected]
> 
> so right, Ari..
> 
> anyone on ebay (or others) that offer COA's--take em for what they 
> are worth.. a 3 cent, printed piece of paper... they are worthless, 
> and dotn validate any item.
> 
> jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Ari Richards wrote:
> 
> > I sell coins, bullion and banknotes for a living, and the company I 
> > work for has been around 46 years, people often ask for a COA or 
> > some written proof that what they are buying is real. I reply, sure 
> > I can type you something, but its not the item, you could put that 
> > COA with an apple, the proof is the item. So if you want it? sure, 
> > when your ready to sell again (most of these people are into it for 
> > investing and come back) - dont bother to bring the COA, we have 
> > the knowledge to know what you have.
> > (not in those words - Im nicer in person )
> >
> > So what Im saying is a COA is useless, cripes you could make your 
> > own if you wanted,
> > Danke,
> >
> > Ari
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/9/09, James Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: James Richard <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Poster Villains
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Received: Wednesday, 2 September, 2009, 9:20 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Warranties are
> >> all good
> >> and well, but I'm maintaining that it in the future it
> >> would be far
> >> better for the hobby, the business, the auction houses and
> >> dealers and
> >> ultimately the buyers if independent, recognized (and
> >> named) expert
> >> verification were done for a very pricey item prior to it
> >> being sold.
> >> Such a verification would actually *enhance* the value of
> >> the auction,
> >> so how would the auction houses and dealers (or the
> >> consigners) lose
> >> with such a policy? And I'm sure it would make the
> >> auction house's
> >> insurance companies feel better. It would also give
> >> confidence to the
> >> buyers/bidders and they might be willing to pay more.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Going with strictly the warranty, it becomes the
> >> responsibility of the
> >> buyer to determine if he has been sold a fake or not.
> >> That's not right.
> >> Maybe he does get someone to verify, or maybe he mistakenly
> >> takes the
> >> auction house/dealer on their reputation and doesn't
> >> bother. Or maybe
> >> the buyer doesn't find out about the fake until after
> >> the warranty has
> >> expired. That's exactly the opposite of the way things
> >> should work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Keep the warranties, sure, but on very pricey items be able
> >> to
> >> auction/offer a MUMMY's HAND half-sheet with a
> >> description that says
> >> "This poster has been examined by recognized poster
> >> expert
> >> ______________ who has determined to the best of his
> >> ability that it is
> >> a genuine original movie poster containing ___% original
> >> paper. Mr
> >> _____________ states that this is his best opinion but is
> >> not legally
> >> responsible for any loss or damage resulting from this
> >> opinion or any
> >> subsequent purchase of this item."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The lawyers can work out the exact wording.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I fail to understand why there is resistance to such a
> >> simple and
> >> effective idea.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- JR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Franc wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Message
> >>
> >> I just decided to take a look at the
> >> "limited
> >> Warranty" provided by one the big auction houses. It
> >> clearly reads that
> >> the auction house " warrants for a period of 6 years
> >> that any article
> >> described in UPPER CASE TYPE which is unqualifiedly
> >> stated to be the
> >> work of a named author or authorship, is authentic and not
> >> counterfeit." In other words the auction house is
> >> responsible for this
> >> warranty. Villian or not, the auction is clearly
> >> responsible for
> >> returning the full cost of the salet to the buyer by virtue
> >> of this
> >> warranty. FRANC
> >>
> >> -----Original
> >> Message-----
> >>
> >> From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic Art
> >>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:07 PM
> >>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Poster Villains
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kudos to Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 01:01 PM 9/1/2009, Stephen Fishler wrote:
> >>
> >> Clearly,
> >> there are
> >> villains here who decided to CREATE some very valuable
> >> posters in order
> >> to line their pockets.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Having said that, let's not work overtime in order
> >> point the finger of
> >> blame where it clearly does not belong. There auction
> >> houses that may
> >> have sold fakes have acted responsibility here. They
> >> are not the enemy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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