Steve
be sure to do this
#1 measure the card. the lobby card I examined was 1/8 or so of an
inch short in both directions
#2 I placed the lobby card on a light box and looked for tell tale
pinholes that were present in the rear half of the card, but not in
the top (front) layer
Rich
At 02:25 PM 10/6/2009, Steven F. Poole wrote:
Hi Sean-
Thanks for your reply. I need to take the card under a strong
light and examine with a magnifying glass.
Something you said in this makes all of the sense in the world
to me. If the restorer who made these ever decides to make a list
of the titles he made and the quanities it would certainly help in
removing the fakes from the market and easing the fears of collectors like
yourself.
This really would be a tremendous aid for collectors in
getting to the root of at least this particular venture in
fakery. It would indeed eliminate much of the suspicion and
doubts. I would hope that the auction houses and dealers who may
have also inadvertantly offered these pieces as genuine would
eagerly welcome this kind of a "master list" so the pieces can
begin to be picked up in this train wreck within the hobby. Of
course, that would be an admission of guilt in the alleged fraud
but it sure would be a step toward redemption!
Steve
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From: <mailto:slinkenb...@comcast.net>Sean Linkenback
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?
Steve,
I don't know where or how you understood that all the fakes are
supposedly paperbacked, but nothing could be further from the
truth. While the one-sheets and three-sheets are linenbacked, all
the smaller sizes (halves, inserts, and lobbies) are NOT paperbacked
- though they are all restored.
Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein itself as a title is not out of
the clear, as I have seen a fake Title Card on this film in person.
I have not seen any scene card as of yet, but that doesn't mean
anything one way or the other.
If the restorer who made these ever decides to make a list of the
titles he made and the quantities it would certainly help in
removing the fakes from the market and easing the fears of
collectors like yourself.
Of course it is certainly possible that a card can be 60+ years old
and still be as fresh as the day it was produced. Look at some of
the beautiful lobby sets Todd is offering for sale as an example. I
myself have even had near perfect mint cards from Cabinet of Dr.
Caligari, and those lobbies are nearly 90 years old.
The main question is - how good do you feel about your ability to
spot restoration? If you have a good eye for restoration and your
lobby appears to be completely unrestored, then it is most likely original.
Sean
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From: <mailto:stand...@ll.net>Steven F. Poole
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?
Hi all-
A month or so ago, after the whole Universal horror scam scandal
broke, I contacted Profiles regarding a lot that I had purchased in
their spring auction. It is a 1948 lobby card for ABBOTT AND
COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN and is the card of the boys discovering
the Monster in the packing crate (my favorite card from the set).
Naturally, I had a knee-jerk reaction to the fakes issue and
checked the card out again closely. It is presents as near mint
with no backing. I began to wonder about something that is
supposeded to be 60+ years old and is, for lack of a better term,
as "minty white" as could possiblyh be. I did not know at the
time the scandal first broke that the alleged fakes are all
apparently paper backed. I called Profiles and met with a rather
dismissive response that the "reproductionists" would not possibly
have bothered with such a low-end card (although it hammered at
almost $1000, including the premium which is just about where this
card sells retail). At the time, I was somewhat reassured
although felt as though the person I spoke with apparently
representing Profiles on this issue really considered my card a
small fish in their large pond and it was not worth pursuing any
kind of authentication.
The Profiles rep. did say that if I still had a doubt, I could
send it to Poster Mountain to have it proclaimed authentic.
My question is, would a card like this have been indeed
not been , for the alleged scammers, "worth their while" to
fake? Also, I have not really relished the idea of speaking with
Profiles again but was wondering if they are still utilizing
Poster Mountain for authentication or using another source if I
wanted it checked out.
Thanks in advance for any direction.
Steve
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