David I have to respectfully disagree with the theory your setting
forth... its patently not true in my opinion.
Where you in business in 1977 - 1989 period- selling movie Posters?
Did you have a business relationship with any suppliers during the
years in question?
When you purport that the posters that are rumored to have been made
Most Likely after hours
where did your information come from to support that? who told You?
what documents can support your allegations.? On what date did each
poster get printed and by whom and where?
who were the dealers that sold the posters and what specific titles
where sold.?
where were these reprints printed and if they were done after hours on
the same press and same printer on same paper then by all means that is
t like printing a 35 mm movie print off the original negative and is a
original. copy just as the rest but just later in day
What proof do you have or facts that they're printed at same plant and
documents or statements by whom to support your theory? what is the
date they were printed.
where have you obtained Your fake posters from as are Your posters also
suspect then ?
Why would you carry fake posters ? Is your source for the fakes also a
maker of other fakes?
Do you carry other fakes if so what items in your inventory are fakes
also. On what authority do you have
the ability to differentiate a fake from a real Poster? Are you
accredited and licensed to make appraisals
or just offer your professional Opinion? please advise.
However thetas Not the case.. because if they were not originals what
your saying is that a employee would stay and jeopardize a job ,
possible legal suit and more to make posters tat were available for 3.00
at the time
and abundant.
As I have stated clear Im not saying that there are NOt reproductions
out there that have been done since the 80s , My point was there was a
Lot of posters that came from National screen when they closed the
cleveland office that were to be Dumped and were purchased by a dealer I
personally Know and were offered along with many many more titles then
just the few that people keep bringing up alone...
Plus to me its so absurd that you and many others that just make claims
like You do about the history of the
posters do so.. when I can say with 100 % certainty that they existed.
I will not insult you by saying anyone that doesn't agree is flat wrong
without the facts,,, But I was there
when all these came out and there just was no reason to create these
as they didn't sell.. or I would have bought them at 3.00
heck I have posters from 80s I bought I still have and I even have star
wars I bought at the star wars celebration in denver
so Why would I defend the Minty whites if I 1. ) don't have any,, 2.)
never sold them anyway....
whets the purpose... Its not like I would sell them now because of the
Rumors spread by many...
But let it stand what you have said.. because you have made it fact in
your book and that to me
is very dangerous without having Ironclad data to support your statements.
I was there at the time, received the lists and dealt with the poster
sellers at the time period..
and all Im saying was there was Inserts Unused in mint shape as they
were on sheleves at Nation screen service and they were sold 3.00
wholesale. ... If they were made in the same plant, on same paper from
same plates whether in the morning or night its the same poster,,
also your entire business is unauthorized if you think as Posters are
not to be sold correct so you are unauthorized to do it also... If you
want to get all legal.. Or are you licensed to sell movie posters by some
studio?
makes no sense , your facts are weak at best...
and to place that info on your site and state those things as facts is
not prudent
wisdom to the customers. in my humble opinion.
I offer this for consideration and to help others understand the
history of Posters.
best, Tom
David Lieberman wrote:
how many times do we have to discuss this same topic? ;)
The "minty white" inserts were printed in the mid to late 1980's. They
are "unauthorized" restrikes. They were most likely done "after hours"
at the same place the originals were printed years before (at one of
the nss printing facilities).....that is why the quality is just as
good as the originals.........that is why they fooled so many
people......and that is why they still fool people today. Some are
virtually identical with the same art cropping etc., and some have the
artwork slightly cropped.
The list of titles is on our website.....some of these fake inserts
include: a clockwork orange -X rated, jaws, star wars, esb, rotj,
scarface, blade runner, manhattan.
There were also several unauthorized restrike one sheets printed
around the same time. They probably came from the same source as the
minty white inserts (at least that's my humble opinion!). The
manhattan style b 1sh, fast times 1sh, rocky horror 1sh, star wars
a,b,c one sheets.....as well as several others.
We have done several comparisons side by side and have close ups
of some of them (not all) on our site. They aren't all in one place
though on the website. Some of them (like scarface and manhattan) we
haven't done only because we haven't had a fake one and a real one in
stock at the same time so we could compare them side by side.
Anybody who thinks the minty white inserts are "real".....is flat
out wrong.
David Lieberman
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