Seems like earlier this year someone on MOPO was talking about a restorer that somehow starched one sheets, or something to that effect. But I'm not sure if that is better for the paper or not. I believe you could still see the markings on the back and so on with this resto method.
When it comes to replacing larger pieces of a poster, I'm not sure how you would get around linen backing. If you want the poster to look as it did originally that is. And I've never had any kind of lifting on one of my professionally restored posters. My posters are in a dehumidified, air conditioned room. So the environment is somewhat controlled. If you no longer collect posters, what is your involvement with movie posters at this point. Are you a seller? John W ________________________________ From: Customer Service <empireposte...@verizon.net> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 1:07:50 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Linen-backing versus Paper-backing John, I'm afraid you are missing the point. I don't care whether particular linen-backing companies are hacks or not. I'm sure some of them are positively professional. My main point is that the linen-backing process itself is a travesty. The fact that you own good looking posters on linen that are 10 years old means nothing. Sure, if you keep a linen-backed poster in a perfectly stable environment, it should last you several centuries. A long time ago, I also used to collect expensive posters, and like many collectors, I had a ton of money invested in linen-backed posters, because like many collectors, I bought into the whole linen-backing insanity. But something was bothering me about it. A linen-backed posters just didn't seem like a poster any more. It looked like a strange hybrid of canvas and print art. Gone were the tell-tale signs of age. Gone was all the original writing on the back, another-words... gone was everything that makes an "original" poster beautiful. Everything that served as evidence of the poster's age and its many travels before it got to me. After all, isn't "age" precisely the point of owning a "vintage" poster, as apposed to a brand new repro? And yet that's exactly what most linen-backing companies tend to wipe clean... they make posters look almost brand new. When they stretch a poster onto canvas, they make a perfectly flat looking piece of art. On top of that, they airbrush any damage or even natural discoloration on the white borders. What a travesty! If you wouldn't do that to a Picasso, why do it to a movie poster? If you want a perfect looking poster, just buy a repro for $20. Much cheaper, don't you think? So, I started doing research. I visited several smaller linen-backing companies to see what they did. The owner of one company that did some of my posters told me straight out that someone had showed him how to mount posters on linen, and he thought what a great idea for a business. So he set up shop, hired some locals to work for him (people who had never worked with paper in their life), and advertised himself as a quality linen-backing company. Next, I started calling professional paper conservators. I called the Library of Congress, The Northeast Document Conservation Center, as well as about 10 private conservators, to get their opinion on the whole thing. Without exception, they all told me to NEVER line a paper poster with canvas. The exact reasons are as follows: 1- Esthetically displeasing, for reasons I already mentioned above in paragraph #2. First two rules of any professional conservation effort of antique artifacts: ALWAYS USE "LIKE" MATERIALS. DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. 2- Always use "like" materials (expanded): Paper and canvas react differently to temperature and humidity changes. Canvas will expand and contract at a different ratio than the paper that's glued to it. This creates tension. And because canvas is much stronger then paper, it will take the paper with it, not visa-versa. You may not see the damage for decades, but it is taking place even as you read this. Now, if you keep the linen-backed poster in a climate controlled room, this won't be an issue, but how many collectors have climate-controlled rooms? Several of the conservators I spoke to went even further. They were totally against even paper-backing a poster, unless it was extremely fragile. They advocated simply reinforcing the fold lines and any tears with thin strips of Japanese paper, in order to retain access to the back of the poster. I personally agree with this the most. Meanwhile, I started noticing bubbles forming on some of my posters, between the canvas and the paper. This made me come to a final decision, to either sell my linen-backed posters, or to try and have the process reversed. After all, don't all linen-backing companies claim that their process is fully reversible? So I found a good professional conservator, who wasn't too expensive, and brought him one of my more expensive posters. I asked him to remove it from the canvas and mount it on Japanese paper only, the way it should have been done in the first place, and to remove all signs of airbrushing restoration. "No problem," he said. Three weeks later, I went back to pick up my expensive, newly mounted poster. When I saw it, my jaw dropped and my face turned red. The poster looked twice as bad as before. Parts of it were obviously separated and glued back on, as if it were a jigsaw puzzle. "What's going on?" I exclaimed. "What happened to my poster?" "Well..." the conservator started, "it was more difficult than I thought to dismount the poster because the starch glue that was used was apparently much thicker and stronger than I had ever seen before. Besides, don't you know about the '10% rule?" This is how I learned about the '10% rule.' In all professional conservation, whenever you try to reverse any previous conservation/restoration process, you have to be prepared to loose as much as 10% of your original artifact. I confirmed this with others, to make sure it wasn't just this one guy who made it up. Sorry to write such a long essay, but the subject of linen-backing really gets up my nose. Even though I don't collect any more, I hate to see a whole generation of well meaning collectors permanently ruin vintage posters which can never be replaced. Once they're gone that's it. And if there is anything I can do to prevent it, I will. SW On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:13 AM, John Waldman <jhnwald...@yahoo.com> wrote: Dima, > >Here is the definition of libelous: >libelous - (used of statements) harmful and often untrue; tending to discredit >or malign. > >Only in our sue happy cockeyed society do we always think about suing >someone. >So no, I didn't think the resto people would sue you over you statements. And >sure, you didn't name one company or person, you lumped them all in one big >pile as being deceitful and hacks. > >Since there are a number of companies/ people that do linen backing as >members >on MOPO, it is interesting that none of them have objected to your statements. > >John W > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFFMOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.