Thracian
Perhaps you should have a look at my websites in the context of the I Ching,
results of about 30 years of research - or how about the public archives of
the I Ching list www.yahoogroups.com/group/midaughter
or see my latest paper on 'cracking' the intent behind the traditional
sequence of the I Ching...
(http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond/cracked.html )
The I Ching is a map, it reflects us and people use it as a filter with
which they 'decode' reality. ALL maps are used in interpretations. If you
read my websites there is the emphasis that when we assert the I Ching as
the way in which we will interprete reality so 'the I Ching represents all
there is'...from a Jungean perspective so 'Analytical Psychology represent
all there is...', from MOQ so 'MOQ represents all there is...'
In my particular area I introduce you to I Ching Plus which introduces
aspects of the I Ching never seen before since my approach has been in what
is BEHIND it...
Beneath all of these metaphors are unconscious cognitive and neurological
patterns that determine general expressions that are then particularised --
and so a LOT of metaphors. A metaphor is not just a phrase, it can be a
whole discipline since all maps are metaphors....
best,
Chris.
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Chris Lofting
websites:
http://www.eisa.net.au/~lofting
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond
List Owner: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/semiosis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thracian Bard
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2001 10:33
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MD rogers metaphors
>
>
> Chris,
>
> While I have chosen to sit on the sidelines of this particular
> discussion, I
> feel compelled to argue that the I Ching is far more than a
> metaphor or even
> a philosophy for those of us who practise with it on a daily
> basis. For many
> of us who are disciples of Carl Jung, it is, in fact, a doorway to the
> "Collective Unconscious." For others, it is the embodiment of the Tao.
>
> Thracian Bard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Lofting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Moq_Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:50 AM
> Subject: Re: MD rogers metaphors
>
>
> > elephant wrote:
> >
> > > ROGER:
> > > > perhaps all we ever do is think and speak in metaphors.
> > >
> > > ELEPHANT:
> > > This is something I seem to change my ideas about from time to time,
> > largely
> > > because no-one can tell me definitively just exactly what
> metaphor *is*.
> > >
> > > Ideas?
> > >
> >
> > Analogy is 'X is LIKE Y' and there is an implication there is
> more to it,
> > unlike simile. Metaphor is X described in terms of Y to a degree where X
> > 'is' Y.
> >
> > Metaphor is always approximation, even if down to the 17th
> decimal point!
> > When we use mathematics to describe things then we are using
> metaphor. All
> > maps are metaphors in that once we create the map so we use it to
> interprete
> > and predict but that act forces us to see 'out there' through the map --
> > metaphor, reality is described in the terms of the map.
> >
> > MOQ is metaphor, mathematics is metaphor, the I Ching is metaphor... and
> > they all have something in common, they all have the same underlying
> > structures and relationships that reflect our neruological/cognitive
> > processes at work. That 'fact' allows us to make analogies across
> > disciplines very easily.
> >
> > Metaphor shares the same space with metonymy where metonymy is to the
> > particular what metaphor is to the general.
> >
> > The process of induction, where we move from particular to
> general causes
> us
> > to make maps -- aka hypotheses, theories, models etc etc These are based
> on
> > our experiences where we particularise from general sensory processes.
> >
> > As we build the map so we switch from local, reactive behaviours to
> > proactive behaviours. The proactivity comes when we start to use the map
> to
> > predict and this in turn speeds-up development BUT it also forces us to
> live
> > through metaphors -- the maps. ... and yes, language too is a map.
> >
> > BTW Karl Popper did not like induction, for him it required too
> much of a
> > leap in faith but modern science has gone to reduce that leap,
> although it
> > is still there but maybe just at the Planck distance, 10^-40 metres...
> >
> > From neurology/cognitive science research, metaphor processing
> shares the
> > same space in the brain as processes dealing with cardinality,
> topological
> > processes including object-to-context relationships.
> >
> > Chris.
> > ------------------
> > Chris Lofting
> > websites:
> > http://www.eisa.net.au/~lofting
> > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond
> > List Owner: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/semiosis
> >
> >
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