Chris,
While I have chosen to sit on the sidelines of this particular discussion, I
feel compelled to argue that the I Ching is far more than a metaphor or even
a philosophy for those of us who practise with it on a daily basis. For many
of us who are disciples of Carl Jung, it is, in fact, a doorway to the
"Collective Unconscious." For others, it is the embodiment of the Tao.
Thracian Bard
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Lofting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Moq_Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: MD rogers metaphors
> elephant wrote:
>
> > ROGER:
> > > perhaps all we ever do is think and speak in metaphors.
> >
> > ELEPHANT:
> > This is something I seem to change my ideas about from time to time,
> largely
> > because no-one can tell me definitively just exactly what metaphor *is*.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
>
> Analogy is 'X is LIKE Y' and there is an implication there is more to it,
> unlike simile. Metaphor is X described in terms of Y to a degree where X
> 'is' Y.
>
> Metaphor is always approximation, even if down to the 17th decimal point!
> When we use mathematics to describe things then we are using metaphor. All
> maps are metaphors in that once we create the map so we use it to
interprete
> and predict but that act forces us to see 'out there' through the map --
> metaphor, reality is described in the terms of the map.
>
> MOQ is metaphor, mathematics is metaphor, the I Ching is metaphor... and
> they all have something in common, they all have the same underlying
> structures and relationships that reflect our neruological/cognitive
> processes at work. That 'fact' allows us to make analogies across
> disciplines very easily.
>
> Metaphor shares the same space with metonymy where metonymy is to the
> particular what metaphor is to the general.
>
> The process of induction, where we move from particular to general causes
us
> to make maps -- aka hypotheses, theories, models etc etc These are based
on
> our experiences where we particularise from general sensory processes.
>
> As we build the map so we switch from local, reactive behaviours to
> proactive behaviours. The proactivity comes when we start to use the map
to
> predict and this in turn speeds-up development BUT it also forces us to
live
> through metaphors -- the maps. ... and yes, language too is a map.
>
> BTW Karl Popper did not like induction, for him it required too much of a
> leap in faith but modern science has gone to reduce that leap, although it
> is still there but maybe just at the Planck distance, 10^-40 metres...
>
> From neurology/cognitive science research, metaphor processing shares the
> same space in the brain as processes dealing with cardinality, topological
> processes including object-to-context relationships.
>
> Chris.
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