Our local university does a good job of sending the kids out right away. We have quite a few Title 1 schools with very diverse populations. I think they become aware of some of the challenges that they might face and some strategies to address them. Many of their students are from very different hometowns than this. They also get to see different grade levels. I know in the past I've had student teachers who have said they thought they wanted to teach 1st grade and then they visited a first grade and saw how much work it was.

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So then to add to what you are saying Bev, it is the teachers' college who should be responsible for adding more hours of in school/class observation and/or student teaching. When I graduated college back in the day my first classroom experience was student teaching which came at the end. 3 months was just not enough in my opinion. The teachers we get in now are in shock for about one month of the three they are with us. They have not been prepared for what they will encounter when they walk into a classroom, especially in a Title One school setting. I truly believe colleges need to send their candidates out
from the very beginning.

Laura




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And yet another perspective, that one of a reading specialist, lit coach,

and university instructor:



I understand how frustrating it may have been for you, and hope you had a

good lit coach or grade level partner to help you through, but I'd like to

speak to the issue of teacher education.



What you missed in your teachers' college was what I call "training" which

is different than education.  The teachers' college really does have the

responsibility to prepare you for the profession of teaching and what is

known best practice. It sounds as if that's what they did. They educated

you as to what we currently know about how kids learn and how you build on

that to teach. How to be a professional educator. That took the 36 hours

or whatever you had in your major. Now, within that, they certainly could

have spent some hours talking about the "real world" but it couldn't take

much time away from their obligation to educate professional educators.

They needed all the time they could get to educate you as a professional.



Fortunately, I guess, it doesn't take nearly as long to "train"

managers/teachers to follow a basal reader or do the kinds of things

required by NCLB/Reading First type programs. That's the kind of training a

school district can do; it's not all that sophisticated and the

decision-making that is required of a professional isn't involved. It takes

no knowledge of child development or of cognitive processes or any of the

other sophisticated knowledge that would be required by a program in which a

teacher had the responsibility to design teaching and learning.



Truly, a couple of days with some refreshers could prepare someone for the

lower-level job of "delivering" the curriculum with fidelity and

standardization, a one-size-fits-all program. So, from my perspective they

probably did the best they could: they prepared you to be a teacher, and

left the job to the district to train you for whatever they wanted.



Hope you still have that knowledge within you! There'll come a day. . . .



Bev









A different perspective if I may...



I graduated 9 years ago from a school that had a clear philosophy of

inquiry based learning.  I had no exposure to a basal text, and direct

instruction was also considered "evil". While I believe that the
ideas

presented in the Mosaic books is the best way for certain to learn,
it is

very disheartening as a new teacher to learn that many school
districts do

not hold similar views. Please expose your students to basals and
whatever

the required curriculum is for your district or state. When I first
started

teaching I was very angry that my school did not prepare me for what
I saw

as the "real world". There was little to no discussion about
standardized

testing especially those related to NCLB and AYP.



Just another viewpoint.



Rosie























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