Still impressive in my opinion. I wonder whether they actually have an 
LM. Maybe they just intersected it with the phrase table and put some 
more weights in the table.

W dniu 03.04.2013 13:17, Hieu Hoang pisze:
> The offline version seems to have multi-word phrases, but a bad LM, eg:
>   source (vietnamese): xe hoi
>   online & offline: car
>
>   source: brown fish
>   online: poisson brun
> offline: brun poissons
>
>   source: do you have the time
>   online: avez-vous le temps
> offline: *ne* vous avez le temp
>
> source: where is the nearest toilet please
>   online: où est le plus proche toilettes s'il vous plaît
>   offline: où est le plus proche *de* toilettes *veuillez*
>
> Still, it's good people are finally focusing on small devices. Maybe 
> you'll get a call from Google...
>
> On 29 March 2013 17:43, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Something very recent on the topic:
>
>     
> http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57576627-285/use-google-translate-offline-by-downloading-language-packs/
>
>     I am impressed, about 150 MB per language pack. The translation is
>     soso,
>     compared to the online version, but usable.
>
>     W dniu 07.03.2013 08:35, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt pisze:
>     > Memory usage is usually reported to be about the same (nearly
>     nothing
>     > for both phrase tables), but as Kenneth mentioned there is a hidden
>     > usage for both phrase tables that manifests in the disk cache.
>     In theory
>     > if you run moses long enough with many many sentences the old phrase
>     > table may eventually end up in memory completely (provided you
>     have so
>     > much memory). The same is true for the compact phrase table. But
>     since
>     > the compact phrase table is 6-7 times smaller it will use 6-7
>     times less
>     > memory in an asymptotic scenario. So in theory, if the small phrase
>     > tables fits in your RAM and old phrase table does not (which is
>     quite
>     > likely so), the compact one should be always much faster after
>     some time
>     > of continuous employment.
>     >
>     > Concerning your other question about the crash. You built the phrase
>     > table on another system, right? So the problem is that in the
>     trunk the
>     > binary formats are not compatible between 32 and 64 bit systems.
>      I have
>     > versions of the phrase table and the reordering model that are
>     binary
>     > compatible between 32 and 64 bit systems, but I haven't put this
>     into
>     > the trunk. It is only available in the WIPO branch which in turn
>     is a
>     > lot behind the current moses development. Frankly, right now I
>     do not
>     > have much time available to make that work in the main moses
>     > distribution, but I can take a look. However I cannot promise
>     anything.
>     >
>     > W dniu 07.03.2013 07:38, myounggun jang pisze:
>     >> We use instruments tools in xcode. we check the allocation memory.
>     >> I don't know disk cached is excluded.
>     >> I translate new sentences while measuring.
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kenneth Heafield
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>      How did you measure memory usage?  I'm guessing it
>     excludes the disk
>     >>      cache that the binary phrase table functionally depends
>     on.  Also,
>     >>      were
>     >>      you translating new sentences while measuring or
>     previously translated
>     >>      sentences?
>     >>
>     >>      On 03/07/13 00:47, myounggun jang wrote:
>     >>      > Thank you for your help.
>     >>      > I tested compact table on iPhone.
>     >>      > however memory usage, loading time and translation time is
>     >>      similar with
>     >>      > binary phrase table.
>     >>      >
>     >>      > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt
>     >>      > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >>      <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>     >>      >
>     >>      >     Hi,
>     >>      >     take a look at the charts in
>     >>      > http://www.statmt.org/mtm12/pub/marcin-mtm2012.pdf
>     >>      >
>     >>      >     If you still have questions, drop me an e-mail.
>     >>      >     Best,
>     >>      >     Marcin
>     >>      >
>     >>      >     W dniu 06.03.2013 11:20, myounggun jang pisze:
>     >>      >      > Hello
>     >>      >      > I found that compact phrase table is 6 to 7 times
>     smaller
>     >>      than binary
>     >>      >      > phrase table.
>     >>      >      > I am interested about memory usage, loading time,
>     >>      translation time.
>     >>      >      > Data size is also important, however memory usage and
>     >>      time is more
>     >>      >      > important to me.
>     >>      >      > Can I get a data about comparison between two table?
>     >>      >      > Thank you.
>     >>      >      >
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