it is impressive, and it would make sense. Decoding would be simple without non-local features like LMs.
And on my tablet, it's using 30MB RAM. Moses would be hard pushed to use 300MB On 3 April 2013 12:23, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <[email protected]> wrote: > Still impressive in my opinion. I wonder whether they actually have an > LM. Maybe they just intersected it with the phrase table and put some > more weights in the table. > > W dniu 03.04.2013 13:17, Hieu Hoang pisze: > > The offline version seems to have multi-word phrases, but a bad LM, eg: > > source (vietnamese): xe hoi > > online & offline: car > > > > source: brown fish > > online: poisson brun > > offline: brun poissons > > > > source: do you have the time > > online: avez-vous le temps > > offline: *ne* vous avez le temp > > > > source: where is the nearest toilet please > > online: où est le plus proche toilettes s'il vous plaît > > offline: où est le plus proche *de* toilettes *veuillez* > > > > Still, it's good people are finally focusing on small devices. Maybe > > you'll get a call from Google... > > > > On 29 March 2013 17:43, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Something very recent on the topic: > > > > > http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57576627-285/use-google-translate-offline-by-downloading-language-packs/ > > > > I am impressed, about 150 MB per language pack. The translation is > > soso, > > compared to the online version, but usable. > > > > W dniu 07.03.2013 08:35, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt pisze: > > > Memory usage is usually reported to be about the same (nearly > > nothing > > > for both phrase tables), but as Kenneth mentioned there is a hidden > > > usage for both phrase tables that manifests in the disk cache. > > In theory > > > if you run moses long enough with many many sentences the old > phrase > > > table may eventually end up in memory completely (provided you > > have so > > > much memory). The same is true for the compact phrase table. But > > since > > > the compact phrase table is 6-7 times smaller it will use 6-7 > > times less > > > memory in an asymptotic scenario. So in theory, if the small phrase > > > tables fits in your RAM and old phrase table does not (which is > > quite > > > likely so), the compact one should be always much faster after > > some time > > > of continuous employment. > > > > > > Concerning your other question about the crash. You built the > phrase > > > table on another system, right? So the problem is that in the > > trunk the > > > binary formats are not compatible between 32 and 64 bit systems. > > I have > > > versions of the phrase table and the reordering model that are > > binary > > > compatible between 32 and 64 bit systems, but I haven't put this > > into > > > the trunk. It is only available in the WIPO branch which in turn > > is a > > > lot behind the current moses development. Frankly, right now I > > do not > > > have much time available to make that work in the main moses > > > distribution, but I can take a look. However I cannot promise > > anything. > > > > > > W dniu 07.03.2013 07:38, myounggun jang pisze: > > >> We use instruments tools in xcode. we check the allocation memory. > > >> I don't know disk cached is excluded. > > >> I translate new sentences while measuring. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kenneth Heafield > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > >> > > >> How did you measure memory usage? I'm guessing it > > excludes the disk > > >> cache that the binary phrase table functionally depends > > on. Also, > > >> were > > >> you translating new sentences while measuring or > > previously translated > > >> sentences? > > >> > > >> On 03/07/13 00:47, myounggun jang wrote: > > >> > Thank you for your help. > > >> > I tested compact table on iPhone. > > >> > however memory usage, loading time and translation time is > > >> similar with > > >> > binary phrase table. > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt > > >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Hi, > > >> > take a look at the charts in > > >> > http://www.statmt.org/mtm12/pub/marcin-mtm2012.pdf > > >> > > > >> > If you still have questions, drop me an e-mail. > > >> > Best, > > >> > Marcin > > >> > > > >> > W dniu 06.03.2013 11:20, myounggun jang pisze: > > >> > > Hello > > >> > > I found that compact phrase table is 6 to 7 times > > smaller > > >> than binary > > >> > > phrase table. > > >> > > I am interested about memory usage, loading time, > > >> translation time. > > >> > > Data size is also important, however memory usage > and > > >> time is more > > >> > > important to me. > > >> > > Can I get a data about comparison between two table? > > >> > > Thank you. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > Moses-support mailing list > > >> > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > >> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Moses-support mailing list > > >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Moses-support mailing list > > >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Moses-support mailing list > > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Moses-support mailing list > > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moses-support mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moses-support mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Hieu Hoang > > Research Associate > > University of Edinburgh > > http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moses-support mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > -- Hieu Hoang Research Associate University of Edinburgh http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
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