what we need is an Information Architect to take inventory of all this 
stuff ... the site is huge and I agree, it is really really really hard 
to find stuff.

: r o b

rob wrote:

> Hmmm ... Maybe I'm just crazy, but on a site this size with this 
> frequency of changes, mozilla.org is just begging to be 
> database/template driven.   Is it using includes at least right now 
> (is that the Wrapper Gervase was talking about?  Sorry don't know 
> anything about how it is built right now.)
> 
> I'm not sure who would be willing to implement (I could in time with 
> the right permissions, but never could on the timetable that might be 
> needed -- full time job and part time jobs already) ... but maybe some 
> considerations should be put into making the site Database 
> (PHP/mySQL?) driven so as to keep the content / presentation 
> seperated.  The overall look would be seperate.  Hmmmm ... where have 
> we heard that before?
> 
> Also, navigation for sub-sections might be drops downs which would be 
> updated dynamically based on the database/content management being 
> updated.  This would facilatate many things, not the least of which 
> would be automatic date stamps on every page so you could judge last 
> time something was edited, and content wouldn't disappear or get lost.
> 
> So people wouldn't necessarily need to know PHP it could all be run 
> from a Web admin panel or something .... just dump your html in there 
> and run ....
> 
> This overall sounds great, but would probably be a monumental 
> undertaking.
> 
> Maybe some real die hard PHP head out there knows of an Open Source 
> tool that might already exist that could be used?
> 
> Just a thought.  Maybe a little to idealistic.
> 



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