Martin Fritsche wrote:
> Peter Lairo wrote:
> 
>> That's because it's *cold* in Germany. Subtropical cultures don't need 
>> the solid contructions as are needed in the norther hemisphere.
> 
> Sure. That's why people can life in boxes made of wire and wood. People 
> in california also think that there ist nothing better than living in 
> such a box right?

Remember, the wired box people were murderous criminals. People living 
in California (generally) are not. Nevertheless, it is a complicated 
question. There are many factors: the food and hygene they are currently 
receiving is likely far better that what they consider "normal". So if 
we were to treat them like regular prisoners, they might actually like 
it. On the other hand, we must be *very* cautious not to mistreat them 
(e.g., beating, sleep deprivation, and other cruelties). It *is* a fine 
line.

>> I lived in Florida for 6 years - it was pleasant.
> 
> And you lived in a such a box? You're an ignorant idiot.

Now you're just jumping to irrational conclusions. ;) See my reply above 
(and please realize that I could elaborate, but lack the time).

>>> They are not all terrorists and murderers. Most of them were 
>>> soldiers. Maybe you should ask yourself if everything is right was 
>>> your government tells you.
> 
>> Oh yeah, and the Wehrmacht were just "following orders" - "We didn't 
>> know the *whole country was was engaged in an invasive war and was 
>> persecuting minorities".
> 
> What has that do to with this???

Soldiers are*not* exempt from being responsible for their actions - 
neither the Alkaida, nor the Wehrmacht. That is the relationship and the 
comparisson I was trying to make.

>> You are speculating! For all we know, they were being carried because 
>> they refused to cooperate (like a "sit-down" strike).
> 
> That is what you speculate.

Yes, because I *don't* have the paranoia that Americans are evil beasts 
just waiting to mistreat anyone they dislike. Most (not all) Americans I 
have met are quite the opposite. Therefore, I'll stay with my 
"speculation" (while realizing that I may be wrong).

>> Then don't go to the US and murder someone in cold blood. You should 
>> be reasonably safe then. ;)
> 
> You're a funny one, aren't you? At least you seem to think so.

At least. ;)

>> That would be the coldheartedness of the *German* ambassador then.
> 
> It's the coldheartedness of the ambassador if he is not allowed to help 
> his people?

It's simple, you go to a country, you better be prepared to live by its 
laws. I disagree with many German laws, but I accept them (not without 
protest), because that is how democracies work.

> By the way, inform yourself about the "La Grand" Case.
> They were never informed that they have the right to get help from the 
> german ambassador. You say you lived in germany all your live. Then you 
> will understand this website 
> http://www.learn-line.nrw.de/angebote/zeus/thema/todesstrafe/angst.htm
> Read it carefully.

The website is an essay written by an 8th grade student. The only really 
interesting point is the last statement: "Humans are killed to show that 
it is wrong to kill humans." I like that! :) Everything else was just a 
description of the execution process and statistics on which states 
execute and how many were executed (info provided for non-German 
speakers who might be lead to believe that the referenced website had 
significant value - it had little).

>>> What is positive about american culture? Can you tell me something 
>>> that other countries don't have? Maybe european countries?
> 
>> Just one example: Up until last year, Germany didn't even have an FDA.
> 
> A FDA? What do you mean?

Food and Drug administration - is like the Verbraucherschtzbehörde 
(implemented by the "Greens").

>> Oh, here's another one, just for fun: In general, Americans are more 
>> open to receiving and *welcoming* foreigners. Even though I have lived 
>> as an American in Germany *all my life*, I often get asked: "so, how 
>> long will you stay in Germany?" (by a neighbor!) 
> 
> Oh, very good. He wants to start a conversation and you feel attacked.

No, this person *knew* that I had lived in Germany my entire chilhood, 
and still assumed that I would leave someday in my adulthood. I get this 
*assumption* often.

> Very good. Maybe you don't just understood that a lot of people are send 
>  across europe and the world to work there for a few years. First year 
> they work in germany, next year in the netherland, then maybe italy...

No, this question (when are you leaving?) gets asked of foreigners who 
are *known* to already have lived in Germany for many years.

-- 

Regards,

Peter Lairo


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