On Sunday 04 January 2009 00:57:44 ja...@njkfrudils.plus.com wrote:
> On Sunday 04 January 2009 00:36:46 Jason Martin wrote:
> > Alternatively, we could stop trying to identify chips by marketing
> > brands and just use the values returned by CPUID.  This would create a
> > lot of duplicated code in sub-directories, but disk space is cheap.
> > So, would something like:
> >
> > mpn/x86_64/<vendor>/<extended family number/model>
> >
> > work for our configuration?
>
> As most of the models are the same , this seems like a waste.
> Also this assumes that CPUID is the only differentiator , what about
> L2-cachesize (in the future?) , GPU coprocessors
>
> How about , for each asm file a description of minimum requirements
> eg
> add_n.asm     requires x86_64,LAHF
> lshift.adm    requires x86_64,SSE4.2
> hamdist.asm   requires x86_64,popcnt
>
> and we only bother with the differences that we use , ie virtualization
> instructions we dont bother with. This doesn't help with selecting among
> functions that run at different speeds.
>
> I think what happens at the moment is nearly the best.

Whoops , didn't finish ....

When we get a function which splits an existing type into two(or more) 
subtypes then we duplicate the existing functions between the subtypes , and 
put the new function_1 into subtype1 and new function_2 into subtype2



>
> > Jason Worth Martin
> > Asst. Professor of Mathematics
> > http://www.math.jmu.edu/~martin
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com>
>
> wrote:
> > > I think that features such as SSE should be tested for after testing
> > > for the main chip core. So under /mpn/x86_64/k8 you'd have directories
> > > for any features not available on all k8's.
> > >
> > > Bill.
> > >
> > > 2009/1/3 mabshoff <michael.absh...@mathematik.uni-dortmund.de>:
> > >> On Jan 3, 2:25 pm, jason <ja...@njkfrudils.plus.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Jan 3, 9:00 am, "Bill Hart" <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >>> > The new intel machines. And I don't know if all Dunnington's use
> > >>> > the same family/system CPUID etc. So there might be mutiple CPUID's
> > >>> > we need to add to config.guess.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Bill.
> > >>>
> > >>> We should change the lowest common denominator on a x86_64 system to
> > >>> something more useful than 486 , say P4 64bit without LAHF ? , then
> > >>> people can at least get mpir working on new machines without mucking
> > >>> about
> > >>
> > >> Well, the trouble was that configure believed it was a 32 bit system,
> > >> so I don't see much we can do there aside from attempting to compile
> > >> things in 64 bit mode.
> > >>
> > >>> For the K10 , we will need a separate directory for it , I have
> > >>> mpn_popcount and mpn_hamdist which will not run on the K8  , requires
> > >>> SSE4.1a or whatever it's called ...
> > >>> before 7/7.75 c/l  now 1.5/1.75 c/l
> > >>
> > >> Wouldn't it be better to create a SSE4.1a directory and use that
> > >> assembly code when SSE 4.1a is available? That seems to be the
> > >> prevailing way to do things.
> > >>
> > >> On second though: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE4 it
> > >> seems that there are three SSE4 flavors:
> > >>
> > >>  * SSE 4.1
> > >>  * SSE 4.2
> > >>  * SSE 4.1a
> > >>
> > >> The last one seems to be K10 specific for now, but I would still
> > >> recommend to test for SSE 4.1a if your code is that specific.
> > >>
> > >> <SNIP>
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Michael
>
> 


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