> > > A 80 to 110 marks discount if you happen to be a female. Are you
> serious?
> > > Why? Do you not care whether the females that happen to show up are
> computer
> > > weirdos like the rest of you or not? To be honest, such an offer makes
> me
> > > seriously doubt if I'd really want to go, if I had the possibility to
> just
> > > go to Finland to go to a computer party. It makes me feel as if female
> > > visitors are not wanted there for being computer weirdos but for
> something
> > > completely different...
> > 
> > Wynke,
> > 
> > I probably know why they do this: just because it's very rare to see 
> > a female at those events. I've been to computer parties with like 600 
> > guys and only 2 girls.
> 
> Unfortunatelly (for us) girls are no interesting on parties and computers
> in general.
> I don't know if are there girls reading this who like to know a MSX fan
> from Chile :)

Well, perhaps I overreacted just a little last night, but the fact 
remains that when I see such offers I do not feel girls are taken 
seriously in the computer world. I have been to many MSX meetings and I 
know that there are very few women around. I too believe that's a shame. 
But I can easily understand why they stay away. The computer world is 
very male-oriented and women are not made to feel welcome. As computer 
users women are, in my experience, tolerated at best. It is probably not 
meant this way, but from this situation every attempt to lure women to 
computer events seems insulting. I have the same objections against the 
selection policy of the international olympiads in computer science in 
which the Netherlands always send two boys and two girls, regardless of 
how many boys there are who are better than the best two competing girls.

Wynke.
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