On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 01:44:13AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> Martin --
> 
> ...and then Martin Man said...
> % On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:10:22PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> % > On 2001-10-22 17:56:20 +0200, Martin Man wrote:
> % > 
> % > > just switched over to maildirs and realized that mutt moves all
> % > >messages from new/ subdir to cur/ after opening and closing given Maildir/,
> % > >messages are correctly marked as old, but because they're moved out of new/
> % > >some monitoring programs (gkrellm) which poll the new/ directory can't 
> % > >count
> % > >them as unread messages.
> ...
> % 
> % am I the forst who is missing this functionality in mutt ??? can't believe
> % it..
> 
> Are you the first?  Probably not.  Will many mutt folks see it your way?
> Probably not.  Could you write your own feature patch and announce it and
> work around the "problem"?  I dunno; how's your coding? :-)
not bad, patch is already produced but it doesn't work as expected, because
Maildir messages don't have Status: field, ... certainly I found at
cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html description of colon appended flags which indicate
this,

> 
> No, I haven't read the specs, either, but I (IMHO) think that 'unread'
> has nothing to do with 'new', and so it's proper to move old unread
> messages to /cur and leave new unread messages in /new; if you want 'em
> to stay, then don't mark 'em old!
matter of taste but qmail's maildir(5) says
<quote>
          Files in cur are just like files in new.  The big difference
          is that files in cur are no longer new mail:  they have been
          seen by the user's mail-reading program.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
</quote>

sure I was wrong here..., sorry

> 
> If you're coding up some program, as your example said, it would pay to
> be *very* familiar with the standard and implement it fully and to the
> letter.

sure I'm going to patch those, unread mail checking should be done by counting
messages in new/ and adding the numer of messages in cur/ which don't have an
S flag appended in filename after `:` colon, ...

curiously lot of programs I've taken a look at are simply counting messages in
new (gkrellm, gnome mail applet, etc.), I'm going to patch-fix them
> 
> HTH & HAND
> 
> 
> :-D
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once again thanx and sorry for blaming the best MUA :-))
martin

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