On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 09:18:21PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> One thing I didn't see revisited was your subscription problem.  Are you
> now subscribed?  Do you want to be?

I've figured it out now.  Worked fine from the new address.

> When you bounce a message, mutt takes the message as it was received by
> you and hands it back to sendmail with a new addressee so that sendmail
> can put it on its way.  This is just like a .forward file in that sense
> (though it's done manually, of course); nothing in the message envelope
> is changed, and new headers are added.

So, does mutt add a Resent-To: header or does it not?  If it does,
there is evidence that this does not work sometimes.  I'm trying
to lay my hands on such a message.

> When you resend a message, all of the transit-related headers (Received:)
> are thrown away, the identification headers (From:) are available to
> change as necessary, and the body is wrapped in a new envelope.  I'm
> almost certain that it's completely a new message,

> with the Message-ID: regenerated on your system, too.

Does that mean that mutt won't be able to sort it into the correct
thread?

> All you're doing is using the old
> message as a template for an entirely new message that happens to look
> very similar (usually).
> 
> What is it that you used to do, and what is it that you really want to
> do?

I used to bounce mails and I want to bounce mails.  Not that I
care what actually happens with the mail, but bouncing a message
requires two keystrokes (<b> <type new address> <ret>) while
resending requires 12 (<esc><e> <:> <w> <q> <ret> <t> <ctrl><a>
<k> <type new address> <ret> y).  Hm, can I pass keystrokes into
vi with a macro?  But at the moment it doesn't look like I can
continue to use 'bounce' since the list of Received: headers is
getting too long with this mail server.

> You sound as though you've been doing this for a while, so please
> forgive the basic level of my explanations and questions,

No offense taken.  I try to avoid fiddling with the mail system as
much as possible, so my knowledge of how mail transport works
exactly is limited.

> but 'b'ouncing
> hasn't changed since I met mutt at 0.88 and I can't imagine, particularly
> since it also works the same way in elm, that it was *ever* any different.

Well, I belive you.  What else could have changed to cause my
troubles?

BTW, I'd like to setup my mail system to send external mails over
a different server than internal ones (because our servers are
blacklisted).  What mailer would you recommend (exim, sendmail,
postfix, ...?)  I'm currently using exim.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe

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