Please, I read the list and have NO need of duplicate copies of posts. * Richard Z <r...@linux-m68k.org> [01-05-14 16:57]: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Richard Z <r...@linux-m68k.org> [01-05-14 08:57]: > > [...] > > > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one > > > user which is very easy to do with anything but > > > sendmail/postfix/exim. I have done this on all three and got tired, > > > after every system upgrade some incompatible change breaks it and > > > even the most basic smarthost configuration stops working, not to > > > mention the multiple accounts which always required some > > > configuration acrobatics. > > > > I have been doing this for *many* years with miniminal intervention > > across many versions of linux, mostly SuSE/openSUSE w/o problems using > > postfix/fetchmail/procmail/spamassassin. Postfix and/or most other > > mta's also provide the use of rbl's to help minimize spam. > > your or mine spam filter is not the problem.
Nor was it commented as such. > The problem is when you pipe email through a local postfix/exim MTA it > will attach received headers with the domain name and IP, quite often a > domain name and IPs that is not even valid. The mail than goes through > the smarthost - and this combination easily looks suspicious to certain > stupid spam filters of the destination provider. Why would you want to. Use postfix. I am *not* advocating the use of mutt's smpt. > Because the problem is not with your/mine system but the stupidity of > the spam filter on the other end it is not easy to fix. Or that you do not have a permanent ip. I find that *most* sites refuse to accept email from a dynamic ip. I stopped sending mail from my own smtp many years ago, I relay thru my isp's servers using many different return addresses including gmail, but not their smtp services. > It may be that I was hit a bit more often by stupid spam filters because > I am using linux-m68k.org domain as from addr but routing mail through > gmail.. I will never know because such providers never answer > questions, they just silently discarded my mail. > > > In November last I had to replace my server box witch intailed a four > > version upgrade/jump and all I really did to the mail system was clean > > up /etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/access of stale and mostly > > commented out ancient text from prior *experiments*. > > > > [...] > > > I would not touch sendmail/postfix/exim again unless I want to run a > > > real public mail server. > > > > Somewhere you have encountered major weird problems or I have > > experienced the "luck of a drunken Irishman" (which I may be). > > perhaps I was doing things at the wrong time, when I first messed with > sendmail something as simple as smarthost support was an unusual thing > to do. I find postfix *much* easier to config than sendmail! > But the only easy solution that I can see to prevent the "suspicious MTA > headers" problem is avoiding the local MTA hop. ?? use postfix/sendmail/.... ps: remember I read the list and do not need direct replies. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net