Please, I read the list and have NO need of duplicate copies of posts.

* Richard Z <r...@linux-m68k.org> [01-05-14 16:57]:
> On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Richard Z <r...@linux-m68k.org> [01-05-14 08:57]:
> >  [...]
> > > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one
> > > user which is very easy to do with anything but
> > > sendmail/postfix/exim.  I have done this on all three and got tired,
> > > after every system upgrade some incompatible change breaks it and
> > > even the most basic smarthost configuration stops working, not to
> > > mention the multiple accounts which always required some
> > > configuration acrobatics.
> > 
> > I have been doing this for *many* years with miniminal intervention
> > across many versions of linux, mostly SuSE/openSUSE w/o problems using
> > postfix/fetchmail/procmail/spamassassin.  Postfix and/or most other
> > mta's also provide the use of rbl's to help minimize spam.
> 
> your or mine spam filter is not the problem. 

Nor was it commented as such.

> The problem is when you pipe email through a local postfix/exim MTA it
> will attach received headers with the domain name and IP, quite often a
> domain name and IPs that is not even valid.  The mail than goes through
> the smarthost - and this combination easily looks suspicious to certain
> stupid spam filters of the destination provider.

Why would you want to.  Use postfix.  I am *not* advocating the use of
mutt's smpt.
 
> Because the problem is not with your/mine system but the stupidity of
> the spam filter on the other end it is not easy to fix.

Or that you do not have a permanent ip.  I find that *most* sites refuse
to accept email from a dynamic ip.  I stopped sending mail from my own
smtp many years ago, I relay thru my isp's servers using many different
return addresses including gmail, but not their smtp services.
 
> It may be that I was hit a bit more often by stupid spam filters because
> I am using linux-m68k.org domain as from addr but routing mail through
> gmail..  I will never know because such providers never answer
> questions, they just silently discarded my mail.
> 
> > In November last I had to replace my server box witch intailed a four
> > version upgrade/jump and all I really did to the mail system was clean
> > up /etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/access of stale and mostly
> > commented out ancient text from prior *experiments*.
> > 
> >  [...]
> > > I would not touch sendmail/postfix/exim again unless I want to run a
> > > real public mail server.
> > 
> > Somewhere you have encountered major weird problems or I have
> > experienced the "luck of a drunken Irishman" (which I may be).
> 
> perhaps I was doing things at the wrong time, when I first messed with
> sendmail something as simple as smarthost support was an unusual thing
> to do.

I find postfix *much* easier to config than sendmail!
 
> But the only easy solution that I can see to prevent the "suspicious MTA
> headers" problem is avoiding the local MTA hop.

??  use postfix/sendmail/....

ps: remember I read the list and do not need direct replies.

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