That is not accurate, Lester. At the moment this answer is written there are currently TWO methods to use mutt with Gmail.
First is using an "application specific password" and the second is using the recently added "Oauth" support that is now provided in mutt. Could someone point Lester to a tutorial on how to set up mutt using both of these methods? I suspect that Google owner of Gmail will drop "application specific password" authorizations first, so even though both still work, that new users just use Oauth method. Also Lester has recently sent the list a copy of the error file that was produced by Jude's command but to my eyes it looks all scrambled as if Lester has his locals set to a non standard format. He also sent a copy of his muttrc file with his username and password removed. He is looking for help in getting mutt working. Kind wishes, David Thank you, On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 06:26 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote: > No, Gmail no longer allows Mutt to be used for it. Google considers it to > be a "less secure app." Hence, they do not allow Mutt to be used with it. > I have tried and have failed since Google made that change to Gmail.n > On 4/13/23 04:31, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > No, mutt can use Gmail because mutt has Oauth support built in. It's a bit > complicated but you can search for instructions. That's the preferred way > to use mutt with Gmail as the other method "app specific passwords" will > eventually be phased out. > > Please do not write me again, write to the email list. > > Your questions will help many but only if they're sent to the email list. > > Thank you. > > David > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 05:22 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Damn, I never thought getting help configuring Mutt for my AOL email >> account would be such a big hassle. I used to use mutt for my Gmail >> accounts, but Google, as you know, stopped allowing Gmail to be used with >> Mutt. Configuring Mutt to be used with my Gmail accounts was as easy as >> modifying my .muttrc file, nothing else. Why can't someone just tell me >> what changes I need to make to my .muttrc file in order to use my AOL email >> account with Mutt!? I copy & pasted the contents of my .muttrc file to >> this email group, didn't I? Shouldn't it be as easy as telling me what >> changes I need to make to my .muttrc file, just like I did with my Gmail >> accounts? Instead, I get a whole bunch of hassle from everyone. Leave it >> human beings to make things more complicated than they should be!!! >> Damn!!! You know, the less I have humans involved with my life, the less >> stress and fewer problems I have. >> On 4/13/23 04:05, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: >> >> Yes, but you didn't tell them what it was and you posted an email >> containing our back and forth which will be totally confusing to them. >> >> I don't think because of that you'll get a response from them, but they >> are a very exceptional group, so maybe they will take the time to figure >> out what's going on. I personally doubt it. >> >> You could have taken my suggestion but maybe you have more experience >> with them. >> >> DR >> >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 05:02 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I forwarded them to mutt-users@mutt.org. >>> On 4/13/23 04:00, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: >>> >>> Do NOT send to me, send to mutt-users@mutt.org >>> >>> Again, do NOT, NOT, NOT, send email to me send to mutt-users@mutt.org >>> and attach both files and tell them what they are. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:53 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh, I thought you needed the output that's in the .log file from >>>> executing that command. Okay, I'll then attach that .log file to this >>>> email. Sorry about the misunderstanding. >>>> On 4/13/23 03:47, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: >>>> >>>> Please send to mutt-users@mutt.org email so everyone can help you. >>>> >>>> Unless I'm not mistaken, the command Jude gave you produces a file. >>>> That's what is needed, not the contents pasted into an email message. >>>> >>>> Please send again but send the email to mutt-users@mutt.org >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 02:33 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay, here's what's in my .muttrc file right now with my username & >>>>> password Xed out: >>>>> >>>>> set from = xxxx...@aol.com >>>>> set realname = "xxx xxxx" >>>>> >>>>> #IMAP Settings >>>>> ## >>>>> # activate TLS if available on the server >>>>> set ssl_starttls=yes >>>>> # always use SSL when connecting to a server >>>>> set ssl_force_tls=yes >>>>> # Don't wait to enter mailbox manually >>>>> unset imap_passive >>>>> # Automatically poll subscribed mailboxes for new mail (new in 1.5.11) >>>>> set imap_check_subscribed >>>>> >>>>> # My credentials >>>>> set smtp_url = smtp://smtp.aol.com:465/ >>>>> set smtp_pass = xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> set imap_user = xxxx...@aol.com" >>>>> set imap_pass = xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> # My mailboxes >>>>> set folder = imaps://imap.aol.com:993 >>>>> set spoolfile = +INBOX >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> # Where to put the stuff >>>>> set header_cache = ~/.mutt/cache/headers >>>>> set message_cachedir = ~/.mutt/cache/bodies >>>>> set certificate_file = ~/.mutt/certificates >>>>> >>>>> # Etc >>>>> set mail_check = 30 >>>>> set move = no >>>>> set imap_keepalive = 900 >>>>> set sort = threads >>>>> set editor = nano >>>>> >>>>> # GnuPG bootstrap >>>>> # source ~/.mutt/gpg.rc >>>>> >>>>> Now, here's the output from that mutt.log file after running that >>>>> command given to me by Jude DaShiell: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ^[[?1049h^[[22;0;0t^[[1;24r^[(B^[[m^[[4l^[[?7h^[[39;49m^[[?1h^[=^[[?1034h^[[39;49m^[[37m^[ >>>>> [40m^[[H^[[2J^[[39;49m^[[24d^[[K^[[24;1H^[[?1049l^[[23;0;0t >>>>> ^[[?1l^[>^[[39;49m^[[K^[[24;1H^[[?1049l^[[23;0;0t >>>>> >>>>> ^[[?1l^[>^[[?1049h^[[22;0;0t^[[1;24r^[[39;49m^[]104^G^[(B^[[m^[[4l^[[?7h^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[ >>>>> >>>>> 40m^[[37m^[[40m^[[H^[[2J^[[K^[[2d^[[K^[[3d^[[K^[[4d^[[K^[[5d^[[K^[[6d^[[K^[[7d^[[K^[[8d^[[ >>>>> >>>>> K^[[9d^[[K^[[10d^[[K^[[11d^[[K^[[12d^[[K^[[13d^[[K^[[14d^[[K^[[15d^[[K^[[16d^[[K^[[17d^[[K >>>>> >>>>> ^[[18d^[[K^[[19d^[[K^[[20d^[[K^[[21d^[[K^[[22d^[[K^[[23d^[[K^[[24d^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m >>>>> ^[[40mReading imaps://imap.aol.com:993/INBOX.. >>>>> .^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[4 >>>>> 0m >>>>> Looking up imap.aol.com...^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m >>>>> Connecting to imap.aol.com... >>>>> SSL/TLS connection using TLS1.3 (ECDHE-RSA/AES-256-GCM/AEAD) >>>>> Authenticating (PLAIN)...^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m >>>>> Logging in...^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m^G >>>>> Login failed.^[[?25l^[[H^[(B^[[0;1m^[[32m^[[44mq:Quit d:Del u:Undel >>>>> s:Save m:Mail r:R >>>>> eply g:Group ?:Help^[[K >>>>> ^[[23d---Mutt: (no mailbox) >>>>> [Msgs:0]---(threads/date)-------------------------(all)---^[[2 >>>>> ;80H^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m^[[?1h^[= >>>>> >>>>> If you ask me, it looks just like a bunch of gibbereish. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/23 00:44, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What we need are the errors. >>>>> >>>>> Use the command that Jude posted, that will tell us exactly what is >>>>> wrong. >>>>> >>>>> The muttrc file is not of much use, unless you want to give us your >>>>> email password to try mutt and find out what the problem is. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 18:10 Bush Nest <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm at work right now, so I won't be able to copy & paste what I have >>>>>> in my .muttrc file at this point. Until I get off of work. I'll do that >>>>>> then. >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2023, at 11:32 AM, "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n...@arrl.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe Storm Dragon's fleacollar supports AOL. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://git.2mb.codes/~lilmike/fleacollar >>>>>>> script URL >>>>>>> https://git.2mb.codes/~lilmike/fleacollar/blob/master/fleacollar.sh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Use wget to download this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then chmod fleacollar.sh to be executable and run it and give all >>>>>>> answers, including the password and gpg questions, it won't make a gpg >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> your email itself, it just protects your passwords on your computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wget >>>>>>> https://git.2mb.codes/~lilmike/fleacollar/blob/master/fleacollar.sh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 11:44 Lester Rees < bushn...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone, by any chance, happen to have a sample .muttrc file >>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>> could use for AOL email? And no, I do not want a conversation or a >>>>>>>> lecture, just a sample .muttrc file that I could use for AOL >>>>>>>> email. >>>>>>>> Thank you very much! 😁 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
