I have not read all the replies here, but let me tell you I belong to the people who want some sort of calendar sort of thing in MLO. And I have been waiting long for long time now.
Finally I gave up and have gone to another competitive product - but their UI is real heavy, and the thing is slow (but works). For the sake of blazing fast and neatly implemented software - I am still somewhat waiting for the calendar sort of thing to appear in MLO. On Sep 10, 12:21 am, [email protected] wrote: > This almost sound like you want something similar to the Task Timeline view > in Outlook. Is that a fair depiction? > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Richard Collings" <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:05:14 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > For me, when talking about a 'calendar', I don't mean a tool for managing > appointments. I already use Outlook for that. I mean a tool which will > help me visualise and management my upcoming workload over the next few > weeks. 'Short term planning tool' might be a better term. > > Richard > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bradley Ray Rentfrow > Sent: 08 September 2010 5:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > I agree with Steve, I don't need another calendar program. But I would vote > for a way to export calendar tasks, so you can use whatever calendar you > want. It could almost be done today with MLO's export feature and a script > that will grep through start and end dates. Just need a way to record what > has been exported before or has changed. > > -Brad > > On 9/8/2010 4:54 AM, Steve Wynn wrote: > > I vote against turning MLO into a PIM, it's not a PIM and there are plenty > of those around. It's a Task Outliner and as such I don't think it needs a > calendar. In fact part of it's strength is the lack of a calendar, because > it makes you address the primary concern - tasks. The lack of a calendar > makes you establish things like views that address the specifics of what you > require, rather than relying on a general overview that a calendar might > provide. > > Knowing the workload you have outstanding can only be aided by things like > MLO, but I think if you rely on any tool to inform you how busy you are then > it's time to take stock of your commitments. MLO isn't about scheduling an > appointment for Friday, it's about making an overall plan and addressing > areas of your life. Breaking those down into goals, projects and specific > tasks. In a way it doesn't ask you to focus on the completion of a goal or > project, it asks you to address the next step - the next task. I think if > you find yourself looking to add a calendar aspect you sort of miss the > point of MLO. > > Having no calendar in MLO allows you to keep the two aspects separate, tasks > and schedule. Now to my mind that is the best combination because very few > applications can combine both aspects to form anything with a semblance of > sense. I think only Above&Beyond with it's Dynamic Scheduling manages to > merge both aspects into one seamless application, but even that has issues. > The lack of a calendar in MLO means you are free to use anything which suits > you, Google, Outlook, Time&Chaos, Paper, Diary you are not pigeon holed into > using MLO just because that is where the bulk of your information is stored. > As I said before MLO isn't a PIM and I don't think it should become one any > time soon. > > Overall I think people believe a calendar will make a significant difference > to MLO. I don't think it will and if anything I think it may cause more > problems than it resolves. > > All the best > > Steve > > _____ > > Original message > From: "Mark Levison" > To: [email protected] > Received: 07/09/2010 18:40:21 > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > Please help make this clear to Andrey - go > to:http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-generaland vote for the suggestion > that is already there. Add your own suggestions. If enough people start to > use the site it will give Andrey a better idea where to put his time and > effort. > > Cheers > Mark > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Richard Collings <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would agree that MLO is good for helping decide what you should work on > next and making sure you don't forget stuff but in my world at least people > say to me 'Can you do this Friday?' and I need some way to work this out > given all my other commitments (and it is something that I am truly dreadful > at - so I end up working into the night very often). > > Something like MS Project is way over the top - I just need a tool which > helps me visualise my upcoming work with some indication of what I have to > get done each day over the next week or two and some indication of the scale > of work involved on each day. As I have all this information in MLO > already it would be brilliant if Andrey could find a way of presenting this > sort of view > > I have been using the Pomodoro technique to some degree (where you measure > time in 30 minute blocks) and I think there is some considerable mileage in > developing this further. > > In terms of large scale new developments, this would get my vote very time. > > Richard > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neal > Sent: 07 September 2010 4:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > I'm a big fan of this concept. I use flags to define groups of work. Every > task fits into one of these groups. > > Projects > People > Paperwork > Physical work > Personal stuff > > My calendar simply defines which flag I am working on. I then filter flags > in MLO views and let my MLO order decide which task to work on. > > I found this works out better for me then trying to pre-plan which task I am > going to schedule at what time. At this point I no longer want a calendar > for pre-planning. > > It still would be useful to have a calendar for time tracking though. > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, that seems like a decent solution. > > One more thing though, when do I process to-do tasks that aren't in my > alloted times? > > For example, "Call XYZ regarding blah blah". Tasks like these could > pop up un-announced. > Do I just interrpt whatever I was doing to perform these kind of tasks > or what? > > On Sep 7, 1:38 am, Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey, Mike-- > > > I am in the same boat that you are in, but I found a bit of stop-gap > > solution which is: > > > 1) Using Google Calendar, allocate time to various projects (in my > > case, contexts/allocation buckets) each week. > > 2) In MLO, add another context to each task for the project. > > 3) When the event comes up on the calendar, switch to MLO and filter > > the To-Do view for the given time allocation. > > > It is not perfect, but it does solve the problem and is available > > today. As long as you are disciplined about respecting your allocated > > time, it will work and deliver results. > > > On Sep 5, 9:02 am, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > MLO seems like probably the best task management software around, but > > > it's missing a critical component - the calendar. > > > > I currently have a few projects I want to start and each of them have > > > various goals and "checkpoints". > > > I'd like to allot a particular amount of time to each project > > > throughout the week in such a way that I won't really have to manually > > > plan what to do in each session - it should be taken care of by the > > > project's massive to-do list so I could just pick off where I have > > > left off earlier. > > > > Without a built-in Calendar, MLO can only be used with software such > > > as Outlook, which may be utterly useless to some of us (I'm a student > > > - I don't need the burden of Outlook because I use Gmail for my > > > emailing needs). > > > > Is a Calendar feature being planned for a future revision? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:mylifeorganized%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:mylifeorganized%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:mylifeorganized%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. > > <http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3543/3833840021_3bd1777182_o.jpg> > > Mark Levison | Agile Pain <http://agilepainrelief.com/> Relief Consulting | > Agile Editor <http://www.infoq.com/about.jsp> @ InfoQ > > Blog <http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/> | Twitter > <http://twitter.com/mlevison> | Office: (613) 862-2538 > > Recent Entries: Self > <http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/12/self-inflicted-agile-injuri... > l> Inflicted Agile Injuries, Why > <http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/11/why-use-an-agile-coach.html> use > an Agile Coach > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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