"Frankly I did not plan to integrate appointments into MLO.... " The above was stated by Andrey in 2005. I don't think he has ever changed his mind on the subject.
To me there are two distinct camps on this. One group that wants a calendar. The other one that doesn't want the added bloat. At this point, I would suggest the Calendar group people ask for a "companion product." One that "reads" the MLO task list to get the tasks and uses another file to maintain time issues. That way if you want to do time tracking or pre-planning in a calendar you can use the second tool. If you don't want to do those things, you don't need the companion tool. Personally I would love a tool that I could show side by side what I planned to do in a particular time and what I actually did in that time period. I would buy this type of additional app. On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:42 AM, kitus <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure which one of these came up first: > > Outline filtering > Calendar view > > There is no formal response from Andrey to neither of both... > Personally, the only think I ask for as a user is to know what the > developer manager thinks regarding what I'm interested in... > > On 12 sep, 16:01, "vikram.sjn" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Actually its been a very long time people have been asking for > > calendar, or at least something like calendar. > > I believe this is high time that Andrey should respond - or at least > > make an statement. > > > > Their may be many other such issues where people discuss over that it > > be implemented and Andrey does not respond - but this is the most old > > and recurrently asked, and debated issue. > > No use that we continue debating when Andrey is not responding at all. > > > > May be the next calendar thread should be "Andrey pls make statement > > about calendar requests" > > > > On Sep 12, 12:26 pm, kitus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would advice you guys to first make sure that your definition and > > > time is worth the effort for i dont think that Andrey has never up to > > > this point commented on this topic at all. > > > > > So, before you use your time make sure you don't waste it. He seems to > > > have a clear picture of what MLO should be like in the future and what > > > we describe in this forum is hardly taken into consideration (or so it > > > seems) > > > > > I wish things would be otherwise but the facts seem to point into this > > > direction... Do add your request in uservoice but be aware that it may > > > never be considered for it hasn't been even acknowledged neither in > > > here nor in USerVoice so far... > > > > > Frankly, developers of other products I've cme across seem to feel > > > comfortable with active users requesting new features and > > > collaborating with its authors in identifying errors but that's not > > > the feeling I get with MLO... I've said many times that a discussion > > > group should be used for discussion while new features need to be > > > posted somewhere else and uservoice seems to be perfect for that. We > > > have even created uv for mlo and some of use are already using it but > > > I get the feeling this won't change a thing as long as Andrey does not > > > acknowledge ghat way of receiving new requests... > > > > > Same happens with all the discussion here about Calendar. If he > > > doesn't acknowledge he is "listening" don't bother to mock up your > > > idea or to throughly define what your request is > > > > > My 2 cts > > > > > Regards > > > > > On 11 sep, 16:08, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > It would appear that you are the most ardent, but obviously not the > only, advocate of the calendar view. Some of what you suggest sounds quite > intriguing, but it is also apparent that there are some differences in > understanding exactly what it is that you are requesting. A graphic mock-up > coupled with a statement of expected capabilities would go a long way in > presenting your case, although note that I do not work for Andrey and thus > have no influence. > > > > > > Having said that, are you looking for something that will; > > > > > > - present a matrix on the screen where columns correspond to days and > rows correspond to hours. > > > > > > - tasks are displayed if either their start or stop or any > intervening dates include that day. > > > > > > - you have the ability to grab a task and drop it into the time slot > you want, probably with the ability to drop both a start time and a stop > time. > > > > > > - track total time invested. > > > > > > Is this a reasonable first approximation? If so, what else? > > > > > > Defining the SOW and customer requirements for this could be part of > the reason why Andrey appears less than keen to implement this. > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "Richard Collings" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:07:56 > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: RE: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > > > > I don't use Tasks in Outlook - that's why I have MLO. I have just > taken > > > > a quick look at Task Timeline and its not quite what I am looking > for. > > > > > > I tend to break most of my tasks down into smaller chunks which can > be done > > > > in a few hours. I would like to be able to drag and drop these in a > > > > calendar view. So I don't really need a time line (I think) > > > > > > I think the view that I want is a 'Week to a page' type layout - > similar to > > > > that which you can get in Ecco Pro (see the image at the end of this > web > > > > page -http://www.compusol.org/ecco/whytli.html) but probably with > some > > > > added features so that you can see next week as well (either as a > single > > > > block ; or day by day). Needs a bit more thought. > > > > > > I might have a go at mocking something up in Balsamiq when I have a > spare > > > > moment. Incidentally, what is a good website for uploading images > to that > > > > one can then link to from a posting to this forum? > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > > > [email protected] > > > > Sent: 09 September 2010 8:22 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > > > > This almost sound like you want something similar to the Task > Timeline view > > > > in Outlook. Is that a fair depiction? > > > > > > Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: "Richard Collings" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > > > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:05:14 +0100 > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > > > > > Subject: RE: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > > > > For me, when talking about a 'calendar', I don't mean a tool for > managing > > > > appointments. I already use Outlook for that. I mean a tool which > will > > > > help me visualise and management my upcoming workload over the next > few > > > > weeks. 'Short term planning tool' might be a better term. > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bradley Ray > Rentfrow > > > > Sent: 08 September 2010 5:49 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > > > > I agree with Steve, I don't need another calendar program. But I > would vote > > > > for a way to export calendar tasks, so you can use whatever calendar > you > > > > want. It could almost be done today with MLO's export feature and a > script > > > > that will grep through start and end dates. Just need a way to record > what > > > > has been exported before or has changed. > > > > > > -Brad > > > > > > On 9/8/2010 4:54 AM, Steve Wynn wrote: > > > > > > I vote against turning MLO into a PIM, it's not a PIM and there are > plenty > > > > of those around. It's a Task Outliner and as such I don't think it > needs a > > > > calendar. In fact part of it's strength is the lack of a calendar, > because > > > > it makes you address the primary concern - tasks. The lack of a > calendar > > > > makes you establish things like views that address the specifics of > what you > > > > require, rather than relying on a general overview that a calendar > might > > > > provide. > > > > > > Knowing the workload you have outstanding can only be aided by things > like > > > > MLO, but I think if you rely on any tool to inform you how busy you > are then > > > > it's time to take stock of your commitments. MLO isn't about > scheduling an > > > > appointment for Friday, it's about making an overall plan and > addressing > > > > areas of your life. Breaking those down into goals, projects and > specific > > > > tasks. In a way it doesn't ask you to focus on the completion of a > goal or > > > > project, it asks you to address the next step - the next task. I > think if > > > > you find yourself looking to add a calendar aspect you sort of miss > the > > > > point of MLO. > > > > > > Having no calendar in MLO allows you to keep the two aspects > separate, tasks > > > > and schedule. Now to my mind that is the best combination because > very few > > > > applications can combine both aspects to form anything with a > semblance of > > > > sense. I think only Above&Beyond with it's Dynamic Scheduling > manages to > > > > merge both aspects into one seamless application, but even that has > issues. > > > > The lack of a calendar in MLO means you are free to use anything > which suits > > > > you, Google, Outlook, Time&Chaos, Paper, Diary you are not pigeon > holed into > > > > using MLO just because that is where the bulk of your information is > stored. > > > > As I said before MLO isn't a PIM and I don't think it should become > one any > > > > time soon. > > > > > > Overall I think people believe a calendar will make a significant > difference > > > > to MLO. I don't think it will and if anything I think it may cause > more > > > > problems than it resolves. > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Original message > > > > From: "Mark Levison" > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Received: 07/09/2010 18:40:21 > > > > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > > > > Please help make this clear to Andrey - go to: > http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-generalandvotefor the suggestion > > > > that is already there. Add your own suggestions. If enough people > start to > > > > use the site it will give Andrey a better idea where to put his time > and > > > > effort. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Richard Collings < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I would agree that MLO is good for helping decide what you should > work on > > > > next and making sure you don't forget stuff but in my world at least > people > > > > say to me 'Can you do this Friday?' and I need some way to work this > out > > > > given all my other commitments (and it is something that I am truly > dreadful > > > > at - so I end up working into the night very often). > > > > > > Something like MS Project is way over the top - I just need a tool > which > > > > helps me visualise my upcoming work with some indication of what I > have to > > > > get done each day over the next week or two and some indication of > the scale > > > > of work involved on each day. 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