We now that product thing has come up, I will very briefly state the products I have used so far: - started with TimeTo ... this was missing outline/hierarchial lists... spent about a year with this - moved over to MLO ... very good outline/tree facilities... spent about a year with this... but since this was altogether missing calendar - moved over to Achieve Planner ... has support for outline/tree, outline filtering, and calendar... now the only issue is that its heavy when compared to MLO, and does not have PocketPC version to sync with
Achieve Planner does not really have calendar, but something like a week or 10 day view (what Michael Linenberger calls 'horizon'). One can customize the no. of days to show up in the calendar view. On Sep 11, 5:25 pm, "Richard Collings" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Vikram > > What product is this? It always useful to look at alternative and if there > are calendar views, etc in this other product that work for you, perhaps we > could persuade Andrey to implement something similar in MLO. > > Richard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of vikram.sjn > Sent: 10 September 2010 1:24 PM > To: MyLifeOrganized > Subject: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > I have not read all the replies here, but let me tell you I belong to > the people who want some sort of calendar sort of thing in MLO. > And I have been waiting long for long time now. > > Finally I gave up and have gone to another competitive product - but > their UI is real heavy, and the thing is slow (but works). > For the sake of blazing fast and neatly implemented software - I am > still somewhat waiting for the calendar sort of thing to appear in > MLO. > > On Sep 10, 12:21 am, [email protected] wrote: > > This almost sound like you want something similar to the Task Timeline > view in Outlook. Is that a fair depiction? > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Richard Collings" <[email protected]> > > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:05:14 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > For me, when talking about a 'calendar', I don't mean a tool for > managing > > appointments. I already use Outlook for that. I mean a tool which will > > help me visualise and management my upcoming workload over the next few > > weeks. 'Short term planning tool' might be a better term. > > > Richard > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bradley Ray > Rentfrow > > Sent: 08 September 2010 5:49 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > I agree with Steve, I don't need another calendar program. But I would > vote > > for a way to export calendar tasks, so you can use whatever calendar you > > want. It could almost be done today with MLO's export feature and a script > > that will grep through start and end dates. Just need a way to record what > > has been exported before or has changed. > > > -Brad > > > On 9/8/2010 4:54 AM, Steve Wynn wrote: > > > I vote against turning MLO into a PIM, it's not a PIM and there are plenty > > of those around. It's a Task Outliner and as such I don't think it needs > a > > calendar. In fact part of it's strength is the lack of a calendar, > because > > it makes you address the primary concern - tasks. The lack of a calendar > > makes you establish things like views that address the specifics of what > you > > require, rather than relying on a general overview that a calendar might > > provide. > > > Knowing the workload you have outstanding can only be aided by things like > > MLO, but I think if you rely on any tool to inform you how busy you are > then > > it's time to take stock of your commitments. MLO isn't about scheduling > an > > appointment for Friday, it's about making an overall plan and addressing > > areas of your life. Breaking those down into goals, projects and specific > > tasks. In a way it doesn't ask you to focus on the completion of a goal > or > > project, it asks you to address the next step - the next task. I think if > > you find yourself looking to add a calendar aspect you sort of miss the > > point of MLO. > > > Having no calendar in MLO allows you to keep the two aspects separate, > tasks > > and schedule. Now to my mind that is the best combination because very > few > > applications can combine both aspects to form anything with a semblance of > > sense. I think only Above&Beyond with it's Dynamic Scheduling manages to > > merge both aspects into one seamless application, but even that has > issues. > > The lack of a calendar in MLO means you are free to use anything which > suits > > you, Google, Outlook, Time&Chaos, Paper, Diary you are not pigeon holed > into > > using MLO just because that is where the bulk of your information is > stored. > > As I said before MLO isn't a PIM and I don't think it should become one > any > > time soon. > > > Overall I think people believe a calendar will make a significant > difference > > to MLO. I don't think it will and if anything I think it may cause more > > problems than it resolves. > > > All the best > > > Steve > > > _____ > > > Original message > > From: "Mark Levison" > > To: [email protected] > > Received: 07/09/2010 18:40:21 > > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > Please help make this clear to Andrey - go > to:http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-generalandvote for the suggestion > > that is already there. Add your own suggestions. If enough people start to > > use the site it will give Andrey a better idea where to put his time and > > effort. > > > Cheers > > Mark > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Richard Collings <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I would agree that MLO is good for helping decide what you should work on > > next and making sure you don't forget stuff but in my world at least > people > > say to me 'Can you do this Friday?' and I need some way to work this out > > given all my other commitments (and it is something that I am truly > dreadful > > at - so I end up working into the night very often). > > > Something like MS Project is way over the top - I just need a tool which > > helps me visualise my upcoming work with some indication of what I have to > > get done each day over the next week or two and some indication of the > scale > > of work involved on each day. As I have all this information in MLO > > already it would be brilliant if Andrey could find a way of presenting > this > > sort of view > > > I have been using the Pomodoro technique to some degree (where you measure > > time in 30 minute blocks) and I think there is some considerable mileage > in > > developing this further. > > > In terms of large scale new developments, this would get my vote very > time. > > > Richard > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neal > > Sent: 07 September 2010 4:23 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: MLO without a Calendar > > > I'm a big fan of this concept. I use flags to define groups of work. > Every > > task fits into one of these groups. > > > Projects > > People > > Paperwork > > Physical work > > Personal stuff > > > My calendar simply defines which flag I am working on. I then filter > flags > > in MLO views and let my MLO order decide which task to work on. > > > I found this works out better for me then trying to pre-plan which task I > am > > going to schedule at what time. At this point I no longer want a calendar > > for pre-planning. > > > It still would be useful to have a calendar for time tracking though. > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yeah, that seems like a decent solution. > > > One more thing though, when do I process to-do tasks that aren't in my > > alloted times? > > > For example, "Call XYZ regarding blah blah". Tasks like these could > > pop up un-announced. > > Do I just interrpt whatever I was doing to perform these kind of tasks > > or what? > > > On Sep 7, 1:38 am, Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hey, Mike-- > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in, but I found a bit of stop-gap > > > solution which is: > > > > 1) Using Google Calendar, allocate time to various projects (in my > > > case, contexts/allocation buckets) each week. > > > 2) In MLO, add another context to each task for the project. > > > 3) When the event comes up on the calendar, switch to MLO and filter > > > the To-Do view for the given time allocation. > > > > It is not perfect, but it does solve the problem and is available > > > today. As long as you are disciplined about respecting your allocated > > > time, it will work and deliver results. > > > > On Sep 5, 9:02 am, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > MLO seems like probably the best task management software around, but > > > > it's missing a critical component - the calendar. > > > > > I currently have a few projects I want to start and each of them have > > > > various goals and "checkpoints". > > > > I'd like to allot a particular amount of time to each project > > > > throughout the week in such a way that I won't really have to manually > > > > plan what to do in each session - it should be taken care of by the > > > > project's massive to-do list so I could just pick off where I have > > > > left off earlier. > > > > > Without a built-in Calendar, MLO can only be used with software such > > > > as Outlook, which may be utterly useless to some of us (I'm a student > > > > - I don't need the burden of Outlook because I use Gmail for my > > > > emailing needs). > > > > > Is a Calendar feature being planned for a future revision? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > <mailto:mylifeorganized%[email protected]> . > > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > <mailto:mylifeorganized%[email protected]> . > > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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