Update - I found that if I set the context for Inbox on the Android device, new items added inherit it.
On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:23:07 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier wrote: > > That's strange, Dwight, I am using the same handset, a Note 4. I will look > at this more closely and see if I can fix it before contacting support. > > On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 5:15:31 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: >> >> Laurence, on my Samsung Note 4 running Android 5.1.1 and MLO 2.0.14 new >> tasks added to the inbox inherit the context of the inbox folder. I have >> tried adjusting settings that seem as though they might have an impact but >> no matter what i do the inheritance continues to occur. I have no idea why >> it is not happening for you and I would suggest that you write to >> sup...@mylifeorganized.net >> -Dwight >> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4 >> >> On Dec 19, 2015, Laurence Glazier <laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> A quick update. Using contexts seems to work quite well. One problem you >>> may be able to advise on. I ascribed the context "New none" to the Inbox, >>> and all tasks I inbox in Windows automatically get this context, but on >>> Android, whether I use the widget or the app to inbox intems, the context >>> is not set, so I have to do it by editing. Is there an Android setting to >>> make this automatic? >>> >>> I have just made a query about these issues on Mark Forster's website at >>> >>> >>> http://markforster.squarespace.com/blog/2015/5/21/the-final-version-perfected-fvp.html?postSubmitted=true¤tPage=3#comments >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Dwight I might choose the path of outline based views. For the >>>> moment I have been tweaking the importance slider but I can see this may >>>> get harder as time goes on! >>>> >>>> I tried a different approach today, by using the Active by Context >>>> view. To move a task to the bottom of the list, I would set a context >>>> based >>>> on a date stamp, e.g. 151219/1 etc, which effectively puts it to the >>>> bottom >>>> of the list. In time, as these contexts become emptied, they would be >>>> deleted. However the synchronisation from Windows to Android did not work >>>> well. Tasks without contexts did not always show on the Android, but >>>> sometimes did. By creating a new context and putting all items without a >>>> context into it (called "New None") seemed to fix it. I may persevere with >>>> this idea for a while. >>>> >>>> I need to understand this aspect of MLO better. Even if it does not >>>> solve the immediate issue it is bound to help me in the future :) >>>> >>>> I might pose these questions, with a link to this thread, on a similar >>>> forum on Mark Forster's website which I think may have a number of MLO >>>> users. >>>> >>>> Laurence >>>> >>>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 3:40:20 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You mention an important point. In a to-do list view, the included >>>>> tasks are shown in a flat list either ordered according to a defined set >>>>> of >>>>> sort rules or else ordered according to a manual sort. >>>>> >>>>> Outline views in contrast show the included tasks in a hierarchical >>>>> list. Most of the time, the entire view is ordered according to the order >>>>> the tasks are in within the underlying profile. If you specify a sort >>>>> rule >>>>> in a hierarchical view, it will be used to sort the top level items; >>>>> tasks >>>>> in the branch below each top level item are unsorted, that is they are in >>>>> the order of the underlying profile outline. So if you re-order tasks >>>>> within a folder, you are actually reorganizing the underlying outline, >>>>> and >>>>> these changes will be synched. >>>>> >>>>> You can build custom hierarchical views that zoom in to a particular >>>>> branch, or that exclude any item whose contexts are all closed, or limit >>>>> the display to active tasks (ie not hidden, no future start date, etc). >>>>> Maybe something like this would serve you better. >>>>> -Dwight >>>>> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2 >>>>> On 12/17/2015 5:44 PM, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Dwight >>>>> >>>>> I will try something like that for the time being, and see how well it >>>>> works for me. I can revert to using Active Starred view, and starring >>>>> every >>>>> task, which works though does not make the application shine! >>>>> >>>>> If there is a solution we have both overlooked, I suspect it is in >>>>> outline based views rather than to-do list ones. It may be that >>>>> synchronizing other manually ordered views will be needed to solve this >>>>> one. And by then Mark Forster may well have come up with new refinements >>>>> to >>>>> his methods! >>>>> >>>>> Laurence >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:38:44 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the link to FVP, it was an interesting read. I had been >>>>>> going to suggest something about using dependencies to form tasks into a >>>>>> chain but its clear that this would not help manage FVP. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I wanted to do this: I would use Importance. I would start by >>>>>> multiselecting all of the tasks in a chain and setting importance to >>>>>> zero. >>>>>> Then, whenever I want to put an FVP "dot" on a task I would up the >>>>>> importance by one >>>>>> - <alt>2, <alt>2, tab, right-arrow >>>>>> - if <general> section in task properties is collapsed, only one >>>>>> <alt>tab is needed >>>>>> >>>>>> The next task I wanted to dot, I would set importance to two. Same >>>>>> hotkey sequence except two taps on the right-arrow key. >>>>>> >>>>>> somewhere around ten I would stop counting taps and just hold down >>>>>> the right arrow key until importance gets into the neighborhood, then >>>>>> use >>>>>> right arrow or left arrow to fine-tune it. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the last task I dotted got importance 27 and I need to add a new >>>>>> task, I would add it with importance 28 and the next task dotted would >>>>>> be >>>>>> 29. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would work from a view that zoomed to a particular folder and >>>>>> displayed tasks sorted in order on ascending importance. Each folder has >>>>>> its own sequence of importance values and you have to remember the >>>>>> current >>>>>> value so that you can assign a value one higher to the next dotted or >>>>>> added >>>>>> task. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you want to use FVP to select which task to do next across >>>>>> multiple folders? If so then the view should include all of the >>>>>> candidate >>>>>> folders and they should share a single sequence of importance values >>>>>> >>>>>> drawbacks of this method: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. you need to use your own memory to track the next importance >>>>>> value for each chain. That, or else check the bottom of the view >>>>>> every time. >>>>>> 2. If you use the contents of different folders together in >>>>>> varying combinations you will need to assign a single string of >>>>>> importance >>>>>> numbers across folders >>>>>> 3. I suppose that every once in a while the rankings get stale >>>>>> and the piece of paper gets messy and you start over with a fresh >>>>>> sheet, >>>>>> right? The equivalent of this would be setting importance for all >>>>>> tasks >>>>>> back to zero. If you have more than 200 dotted or new tasks between >>>>>> resets >>>>>> you will run out of importance values. In that case I would set >>>>>> urgency for >>>>>> all affected tasks to zero at the reset as well, and after assigning >>>>>> importance number 200 to some task the next task would get urgency 1 >>>>>> and >>>>>> importance one, then urgency one and importance two and so on up to >>>>>> urgency >>>>>> one and importance two hundred, then urgency two and importance one >>>>>> and so >>>>>> on. By the time you get to urgency 200 and importance 200 you will >>>>>> have >>>>>> dotted 40,000 tasks which I think would be more than enough. Your >>>>>> view >>>>>> would then be sorted by urgency ascending and then importance >>>>>> ascending, >>>>>> next task at the bottom. This allows you longer lists but it's more >>>>>> complex >>>>>> and more to remember >>>>>> 4. Mobile: the lists and views will synch well and display well, >>>>>> but it could be terribly difficult on Android (and, I assume, iPhone) >>>>>> to >>>>>> assign an importance value of 7 (not 6 or 8) to a task. There's a >>>>>> slider >>>>>> that could be used but you would need a stylus to make fine-tuning >>>>>> adjustments and there's no confirmation of what number the slider is >>>>>> set >>>>>> to. So in my opinion you would need to analyze your queue and decide >>>>>> what >>>>>> you want to work on, on Windows and you could use mobile platforms to >>>>>> tick >>>>>> off completed tasks, capture new tasks, and have a peek at what's >>>>>> pending. >>>>>> 5. when a view gets longer than what fits on one page I could >>>>>> have trouble doing this. But I guess that drawback applies when doing >>>>>> it on >>>>>> paper as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 2:59:57 AM UTC-5, Laurence Glazier >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds intriguing! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I understand it, each successive activity in the chain is more >>>>>>> desirable (or less undesirable) than the preceding one. The last one in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> chain is always the preferred one from the entire list. You work on >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> one. If you leave it unfinished, you remove it from the chain >>>>>>> (unflag/unstar/unmark it somehow) and transfer it to the bottom of the >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The next one to work with is what was the previous one in the chain, >>>>>>> unless the chain can be extended further down again with more desirable >>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If and when you get back to the top item, when that has been worked >>>>>>> on you start a new chain again from the top. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It takes a bit of getting used to. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to mylifeorganiz...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to mylifeo...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/ac97c122-274b-4ef8-a6bc-d6e20d86bec2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/ac97c122-274b-4ef8-a6bc-d6e20d86bec2%40googlegroups.com >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to mylifeorganiz...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to mylifeo...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/1848643c-8c2a-4640-8d9e-1fc0124702b9%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/1848643c-8c2a-4640-8d9e-1fc0124702b9%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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