What is the solution you ended up with on Android? Manually ordered list? Do you pull from across the task tree or are you working in the outline? Just curious!
Lisa On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Laurence Glazier < laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have made that mistake once, but not this time. Only one Inbox! > > I have decided to look at the manual sync issues positively. I'll limit my > use of Mark Forster's systems to the Android, and view that as a bonus > facility which comes with the Android platform. I always have my phone with > me and the Windows version is very useful for inboxing and multiple-select > operations. > > That way I can enjoy all the benefits and look-and-feel of the Android app > without trying to manipulate it with extra contexts/stars/sorting tricks! > Thanks so much for all your time and suggestions. :)) > > Laurence > > > On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 10:22:55 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: > >> Is there any chance that you have more than one inbox? >> -Dwight >> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4 >> >> On Dec 20, 2015, Laurence Glazier <laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Update - I found that if I set the context for Inbox on the Android >>> device, new items added inherit it. >>> >>> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:23:07 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>> >>>> That's strange, Dwight, I am using the same handset, a Note 4. I will >>>> look at this more closely and see if I can fix it before contacting >>>> support. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 5:15:31 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Laurence, on my Samsung Note 4 running Android 5.1.1 and MLO 2.0.14 >>>>> new tasks added to the inbox inherit the context of the inbox folder. I >>>>> have tried adjusting settings that seem as though they might have an >>>>> impact >>>>> but no matter what i do the inheritance continues to occur. I have no idea >>>>> why it is not happening for you and I would suggest that you write to >>>>> sup...@mylifeorganized.net >>>>> -Dwight >>>>> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4 >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 19, 2015, Laurence Glazier <laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> A quick update. Using contexts seems to work quite well. One problem >>>>>> you may be able to advise on. I ascribed the context "New none" to the >>>>>> Inbox, and all tasks I inbox in Windows automatically get this context, >>>>>> but >>>>>> on Android, whether I use the widget or the app to inbox intems, the >>>>>> context is not set, so I have to do it by editing. Is there an Android >>>>>> setting to make this automatic? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have just made a query about these issues on Mark Forster's website >>>>>> at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://markforster.squarespace.com/blog/2015/5/21/the-final-version-perfected-fvp.html?postSubmitted=true¤tPage=3#comments >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Dwight I might choose the path of outline based views. For >>>>>>> the moment I have been tweaking the importance slider but I can see this >>>>>>> may get harder as time goes on! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried a different approach today, by using the Active by Context >>>>>>> view. To move a task to the bottom of the list, I would set a context >>>>>>> based >>>>>>> on a date stamp, e.g. 151219/1 etc, which effectively puts it to the >>>>>>> bottom >>>>>>> of the list. In time, as these contexts become emptied, they would be >>>>>>> deleted. However the synchronisation from Windows to Android did not >>>>>>> work >>>>>>> well. Tasks without contexts did not always show on the Android, but >>>>>>> sometimes did. By creating a new context and putting all items without a >>>>>>> context into it (called "New None") seemed to fix it. I may persevere >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> this idea for a while. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I need to understand this aspect of MLO better. Even if it does not >>>>>>> solve the immediate issue it is bound to help me in the future :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I might pose these questions, with a link to this thread, on a >>>>>>> similar forum on Mark Forster's website which I think may have a number >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> MLO users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laurence >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 3:40:20 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You mention an important point. In a to-do list view, the included >>>>>>>> tasks are shown in a flat list either ordered according to a defined >>>>>>>> set of >>>>>>>> sort rules or else ordered according to a manual sort. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Outline views in contrast show the included tasks in a hierarchical >>>>>>>> list. Most of the time, the entire view is ordered according to the >>>>>>>> order >>>>>>>> the tasks are in within the underlying profile. If you specify a sort >>>>>>>> rule >>>>>>>> in a hierarchical view, it will be used to sort the top level items; >>>>>>>> tasks >>>>>>>> in the branch below each top level item are unsorted, that is they are >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the order of the underlying profile outline. So if you re-order tasks >>>>>>>> within a folder, you are actually reorganizing the underlying outline, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> these changes will be synched. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can build custom hierarchical views that zoom in to a >>>>>>>> particular branch, or that exclude any item whose contexts are all >>>>>>>> closed, >>>>>>>> or limit the display to active tasks (ie not hidden, no future start >>>>>>>> date, >>>>>>>> etc). Maybe something like this would serve you better. >>>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>>> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2 >>>>>>>> On 12/17/2015 5:44 PM, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Dwight >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will try something like that for the time being, and see how well >>>>>>>> it works for me. I can revert to using Active Starred view, and >>>>>>>> starring >>>>>>>> every task, which works though does not make the application shine! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If there is a solution we have both overlooked, I suspect it is in >>>>>>>> outline based views rather than to-do list ones. It may be that >>>>>>>> synchronizing other manually ordered views will be needed to solve this >>>>>>>> one. And by then Mark Forster may well have come up with new >>>>>>>> refinements to >>>>>>>> his methods! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laurence >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:38:44 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link to FVP, it was an interesting read. I had been >>>>>>>>> going to suggest something about using dependencies to form tasks >>>>>>>>> into a >>>>>>>>> chain but its clear that this would not help manage FVP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If I wanted to do this: I would use Importance. I would start by >>>>>>>>> multiselecting all of the tasks in a chain and setting importance to >>>>>>>>> zero. >>>>>>>>> Then, whenever I want to put an FVP "dot" on a task I would up the >>>>>>>>> importance by one >>>>>>>>> - <alt>2, <alt>2, tab, right-arrow >>>>>>>>> - if <general> section in task properties is collapsed, only one >>>>>>>>> <alt>tab is needed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The next task I wanted to dot, I would set importance to two. Same >>>>>>>>> hotkey sequence except two taps on the right-arrow key. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> somewhere around ten I would stop counting taps and just hold down >>>>>>>>> the right arrow key until importance gets into the neighborhood, then >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> right arrow or left arrow to fine-tune it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If the last task I dotted got importance 27 and I need to add a >>>>>>>>> new task, I would add it with importance 28 and the next task dotted >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> be 29. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would work from a view that zoomed to a particular folder and >>>>>>>>> displayed tasks sorted in order on ascending importance. Each folder >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> its own sequence of importance values and you have to remember the >>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>> value so that you can assign a value one higher to the next dotted or >>>>>>>>> added >>>>>>>>> task. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you want to use FVP to select which task to do next across >>>>>>>>> multiple folders? If so then the view should include all of the >>>>>>>>> candidate >>>>>>>>> folders and they should share a single sequence of importance values >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> drawbacks of this method: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. you need to use your own memory to track the next >>>>>>>>> importance value for each chain. That, or else check the bottom of >>>>>>>>> the view >>>>>>>>> every time. >>>>>>>>> 2. If you use the contents of different folders together in >>>>>>>>> varying combinations you will need to assign a single string of >>>>>>>>> importance >>>>>>>>> numbers across folders >>>>>>>>> 3. I suppose that every once in a while the rankings get stale >>>>>>>>> and the piece of paper gets messy and you start over with a fresh >>>>>>>>> sheet, >>>>>>>>> right? The equivalent of this would be setting importance for all >>>>>>>>> tasks >>>>>>>>> back to zero. If you have more than 200 dotted or new tasks >>>>>>>>> between resets >>>>>>>>> you will run out of importance values. In that case I would set >>>>>>>>> urgency for >>>>>>>>> all affected tasks to zero at the reset as well, and after >>>>>>>>> assigning >>>>>>>>> importance number 200 to some task the next task would get urgency >>>>>>>>> 1 and >>>>>>>>> importance one, then urgency one and importance two and so on up >>>>>>>>> to urgency >>>>>>>>> one and importance two hundred, then urgency two and importance >>>>>>>>> one and so >>>>>>>>> on. By the time you get to urgency 200 and importance 200 you will >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> dotted 40,000 tasks which I think would be more than enough. Your >>>>>>>>> view >>>>>>>>> would then be sorted by urgency ascending and then importance >>>>>>>>> ascending, >>>>>>>>> next task at the bottom. This allows you longer lists but it's >>>>>>>>> more complex >>>>>>>>> and more to remember >>>>>>>>> 4. Mobile: the lists and views will synch well and display >>>>>>>>> well, but it could be terribly difficult on Android (and, I >>>>>>>>> assume, iPhone) >>>>>>>>> to assign an importance value of 7 (not 6 or 8) to a task. There's >>>>>>>>> a slider >>>>>>>>> that could be used but you would need a stylus to make fine-tuning >>>>>>>>> adjustments and there's no confirmation of what number the slider >>>>>>>>> is set >>>>>>>>> to. So in my opinion you would need to analyze your queue and >>>>>>>>> decide what >>>>>>>>> you want to work on, on Windows and you could use mobile platforms >>>>>>>>> to tick >>>>>>>>> off completed tasks, capture new tasks, and have a peek at what's >>>>>>>>> pending. >>>>>>>>> 5. when a view gets longer than what fits on one page I could >>>>>>>>> have trouble doing this. But I guess that drawback applies when >>>>>>>>> doing it on >>>>>>>>> paper as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 2:59:57 AM UTC-5, Laurence >>>>>>>>> Glazier wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sounds intriguing! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As I understand it, each successive activity in the chain is more >>>>>>>>>> desirable (or less undesirable) than the preceding one. The last one >>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> chain is always the preferred one from the entire list. You work on >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> one. If you leave it unfinished, you remove it from the chain >>>>>>>>>> (unflag/unstar/unmark it somehow) and transfer it to the bottom of >>>>>>>>>> the list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The next one to work with is what was the previous one in the >>>>>>>>>> chain, unless the chain can be extended further down again with more >>>>>>>>>> desirable ones. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If and when you get back to the top item, when that has been >>>>>>>>>> worked on you start a new chain again from the top. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It takes a bit of getting used to. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to mylifeorganiz...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to mylifeo...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/ac97c122-274b-4ef8-a6bc-d6e20d86bec2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/ac97c122-274b-4ef8-a6bc-d6e20d86bec2%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to mylifeorganiz...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to mylifeo...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/1848643c-8c2a-4640-8d9e-1fc0124702b9%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/1848643c-8c2a-4640-8d9e-1fc0124702b9%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to mylifeorganiz...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to mylifeo...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/b2fe39bf-9de5-4f60-bfe3-0e16c3b592a9%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/b2fe39bf-9de5-4f60-bfe3-0e16c3b592a9%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/0b670650-d8a8-485f-b03a-fe153bcb0da1%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/0b670650-d8a8-485f-b03a-fe153bcb0da1%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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