You can make binary backups from the master using filesystem snapshots.  You 
only need to hold a global read lock for a split second.

Regards,
Gavin Towey

From: Claudio Nanni [mailto:claudio.na...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: Gavin Towey
Cc: andrew.2.mo...@nokia.com; li...@netrogenic.com; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: better way to backup 50 Gig db?

Where is Falcon!!!! (Sorry)

the only way to have a really consistent binary backup is to shut down the 
server.
the best way to shut down a server is to have a slave dedicated to backups that 
you can shutdown any time.

if you have only the content of the database folders under [datadir] it is not 
enough, you need the full [datadir] to 'dream' to restore
your db, unless you only use MyISAM tables, then you are more lucky.

The bottom line is:  Don't Dream, Prove it. Or it will become a nightmare 
sooner or later.


Ciao!

Claudio



2010/4/20 Gavin Towey <gto...@ffn.com<mailto:gto...@ffn.com>>
More good ideas from Andrew!

Just a note though, I noticed someone added replication to a slave as a backup 
option.  I really discourage that.  Replication makes no guarantees that the 
data on your slave is the same as the data on your master.  Unless you're also 
checking consistency, a slave should be treated as a somewhat unreliable copy 
of your data.

Regards,
Gavin Towey

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From: andrew.2.mo...@nokia.com<mailto:andrew.2.mo...@nokia.com> 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:08 AM
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Subject: RE: better way to backup 50 Gig db?

I would also recommend looking into some 3rd party tools.

http://www.percona.com/docs/wiki/percona-xtrabackup:start - Backup Innodb, 
MyISAM and XtraDB engines.
http://www.maatkit.org/ - Packed with useful features inc a parallel 
dump/import.

There's some great features in both products. I will leave you to do your own 
research into the tools as knowing their features will benefit you.

Best wishes

Andy
________________________________________
From: ext Jay Ess [li...@netrogenic.com<mailto:li...@netrogenic.com>]
Sent: 20 April 2010 09:06
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com<mailto:mysql@lists.mysql.com>
Subject: Re: better way to backup 50 Gig db?

Gavin Towey wrote:
> What Shawn said is important.
>
> Better options:
> 1. Use InnoDB, and then you can make a consistent backup with `mysqldump 
> --single-transaction > backup.sql`  and keep your db server actively 
> responding to requests at the same time.
>
> 2. Use something like LVM to create filesytem snapshots which allow you to 
> backup your database, while only keeping a read lock on the db for a second 
> or so.
>
3. Set up replication and backup the replicated data using any of the
above method.



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