Am 12.09.2016 um 15:06 schrieb Ryan Coleman:
Dear sir,
You do not realize that there aren’t always sys admins on these lists
how does that change the fact that it just works and it did work from
day one as described long before i became a sysadmin and that it now
works over 15 years from mysql3 to mariadb 10.1.x
and it's pretty logical that it works just because it's a *binary
identical copy* where mysqld has no chance at all to know that it lived
on a different machine first
Your proven track record of asshole first, kid gloves later drives people away.
MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS
Your fight to change mailing lists is one which only you seem to share.
what fight?
what is the point in producing mail copies?
Goodnight.
to say it with your words: go away!
On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
first: get rid of "reply-all"o n mailing-lists, you break others "reply-list"
button with the second copy which arrives usually faster the the list one
Am 12.09.2016 um 13:35 schrieb Harrie Robins:
It is bad practice to do so in my eyes (and yes that is an *opinion*).
When you advice people, instruct them to take the proven route, as
described in the mysql documentation
proven route?
proven is that you can *test* how it works out by
* hot rsync
* shut down the old server
* cold rsync
* start the old server
which is scriptable to minimize downtime
after that (while the old machine is still in production) you figure out what
needs to get adopted in the configuration
then you test your software, prove that everything works fine
in the meantime you can test as often as you want the hot-cold-rsync to refresh
the mysql databases from production - and *now you have proven* that everything
works
since you have proven that successful you can write a final script which does
the sync (over ssh with certificates) a last time, restart the old servers
network servioce with a prepared network address and on the new server take
over the old ip adress
and trust me: that way you minimize downtime, have a proven *by yourself* way
to go which works, is tested and when correct done nobody notices that the
machine and undrlying operating system changed
after doing that dozens of times for thousands of mysql databases i know what i
am doing and call bad practice ways which take depending on database sizes
hours and beware god something goes wrong with your dump
Second, mastering mysqldump should be golden standard for any DBA.
Telling someone that asks for guidance to simply copy around some files
is bad practice as you do not know the level of expertise involved.
the golden standard for any sysadmin is to know where his datafiles and
configuration files are stored and how they work together - independent of the
software type
Regards,
Harrie
On 12 September 2016 at 11:03, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net
<mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote:
Am 12.09.2016 um 10:48 schrieb Harrie Robins:
Ok let's drop this. Simply copying files to migrate a server is
not the
approach to take (in my humble opinion)
And why?
When you start with "Get the same release-version of mysql running
on the target platform" and dump/load what's the point in playing
around with dump-files when you hava binary datafiles which can be
used on the destination
and no - i am not talking about theory
i migrated a hosting-infrastructure with dozens of servers from OSX
PPC to OSX Intel and later to Linux x86_64 with just rsync the
mysql-datadir
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