On Friday 09 Nov 2001 12:11, DownloadFAST.com wrote: > >Considering the features you want (IIRC you only mentioned the > >default values in tables) - why don't you try PostgreSQL instead? > > My understanding is it is much slower.
That is what I am hoping for. Or rather, I am hoping that MySQL proves to be signifficantly faster, as that is the main reason for the migrtion I am testing at the moment. > But the more important thing that has been learned here, is to find out > what kind of people are in the community. Because one can learn a lot > about the future direction and success based on the people who are > involved. Indeed. All the MySQL developers who bothered responding to this thread completely stayed out of the somewhat heated discussion that we have recently been having. IMHO, that indicates a great amount of self-control and patience - all of which speak only the best for the MySQL development effort. > And what I learned is that some (I don't know what % yet) are very > dogmatic, closed-minded, intolerant, rude, unprofessional, and down right > blood thirsty. Not the kind of people I would want to contribute to or be > a part of. I think you may be (although I am not sure what particular responses have made you form that opinion) mistaking in your identification of the actual developers. As I am quite happy to confess, I am not a developer/contributor to the MySQL project - I just use it. I just wasn't happy with the way you attacked them, for no (IMHO) particularly good reason. This is not specifically related to any particular development effort. So, if you have a disagreement with my opinion, it would be a good idea not to make the mistake of assuming that is how the actual developers/contributors feel as well. I am sure it wasn't necessary for me to point this out, but I don't want my argument with you to be responsible for any sort of grudge against any of the hard working MySQL developers. > And I also learned that MySQL has a license which says we can take their > great work, and basically resell it and use it to make a profit for > ourselves, as long as we give back any source code changes. Indeed - a growing number of companies are trying to do this sort of thing with other GPLed developments. > In 3.23 they basically stabilized all the major issues for a typical > low-end web database. So really the thing is there for the taking, if one > wanted to just focus on a small set of goals. It may not be me, but > someone else my have already started on that business opportunity. The problem is - what happnes when/if you start needing extra features that are not easy to just patch in? Personally, I would handle such minor lack of features in a database at the application level. When it comes to default values, I know I could handle that in just about all of my applications by fairly minor modifications to my code. In fact, that may well be what I will have to do to some extent when porting from PostgreSQL to MySQL. If nothing else, it seems like a much easier and quicker fix to the problem (or at least it is when your code is tidy) than insisting that a new feature be implemented, especially if it can be handled at the application level. In the end, I think we have come full circle here. The only way to really protect your investment is to take over all of the software development, and have a definite say in what happens. It just seems a little to excessive to fork off the whole project, when a patch to either MySQL or your application may well be the far less time consuming option... > I really did not want to learn the source. I can certainly relate to that. But the alternatives often come to the rescue in that case. > I have too many other things to > do. But if I have to learn the source to protect my investment, then I > might as well do action and not beg people who I do not like. That is a reasonable point, even if it may not be the most "efficient" (for want of better word) way do handle the problem. A slightly more cooperative attitude would have been much more likely to produce better results with less effort. > The best way to erase all this noise and measure who is smarter, is in the > competitive arena. Open source arena is both cooperative and competitive - that is why it works. Good luck with your forking efforts. Regards. Gordan --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
