Interesting story. We run Windows 200 servers, and we axed MSSQL and CF/ASP. i would (and do) run php even on a windows box. i guess the only problem it brings is no stored procedures, and people freak out if they don't have that enterprise interface. oh well. mySQL runs better even on a win32 platform (IMHO).
-----Original Message----- From: Nally, Tyler G. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Coldfusion? > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Ingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > We've been running Cold Fusion with MySQL on the Solaris platform for > almost two years now and have had such terrible problems with Cold > Fusion errors that we have begun the process of migrating to > PHP. Our > average load has been about 30,000 .cfm pages (linked to > MySQL backend) > served per week, which I don't consider to be too heavy a > load to expect > the system to handle successfully. Unfortunately, our log files are > riddled with fatal Cold Fusion errors and subsequent restarts. It got > so bad that we had to institute a cron job to check for the > happiness of > the CF processes every 3 minutes and restart them if there was a > problem. Oh boy... I'll confirm that as well. I previously worked at Macmillan Computer Publishing (www.mcp.com) when I wrote "The Personal Bookshelf" and migrated that application from cgi-bin/perl and dbm arrays to Cold Fusion/Oracle all on Solaris. It was CF version 4. And it was really bad. In a development environment where there is limited access, and the machine load is relatively low, it's no problem. Yet, the webstats were saying we had approximately 8,000 users using the Personal Bookshelf at any one time, so it was going to be put under a heavy load once it is in production. Such happened and CF really really choked. The machine suffered under a really high *load*. Typically above 90%. The sysadmins joked that the machine was working so hard it was glowing in the corner. We optimized the code over the course of a couple of weeks scruitinizing the CF markup for more efficient ways to do things in order to get it down to a load. We got the load down to between 60-70% as I remember, which was still too high. Not only was the machine at an unusually high load, but the CF server would die periodically between every 10-45minutes. The sysadmins eventually wrote a script to check the health of the CF server instance that'd run every 3 minutes to determine whether or not it should restart CF automtically. It was a really bad situation. We talked with Allaire and they couldn't believe the problems we had with CF on Solaris. At the time, Allaire said that we had the largest *nix based CF application on the www with a Sun Ultra with 4 GB of RAM tied to a pretty heavy amount of disk space, etc. We provided them with database schema's, data, and our code ... and let them try it out. They did. And they confirmed everything we had said...even in their environment. They said the design of the database and the coding of the pages didn't contribute to the poor performance of the CF engine. Ultimately, they said they couldn't help us because the thing in CF that was causing all of the problems (they said) was a simulated windows registry that CF requires in order to operate. They said that we were also suffering from a lot of errors where CF would loose database connections and not keep threads alive like they would in a non-*nix environment without a heavy load. They had no answers for us at all. They suggested that it be monitored constantly so that the application stays running as much as possible. When I heard about "the simulated registry" for *nix servers built into CF, I nearly hit the roof! I couldn't hardly believe it. That was a couple of years ago, and CF has went from 4 --> 4.5 --> 5. Under a windows environment, it's probably pretty good. Under *nix (Solaris in my experience) it really left much to be desired. I'd avoid it and stick with php on Solaris any day. Tyler Nally -- __ _ Tyler Nally / /__ ____ _(_)___ ____ ____ _________ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / _ \/ __ `/ / __ \/ __ \ / __ \/ ___/ __ `/ 317-860-3016 / / __/ /_/ / / /_/ / / / // /_/ / / / /_/ / American Legion Website /_/\___/\__, /_/\____/_/ /_(_)____/_/ \__, / http://www.legion.org /____/ /____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
