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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tony Buckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Porting from MS SQL to MySQL


> SNIPSNIP:)
> > > I agree. If they are a seriuos company they should build it after the
> > > customers wishes
> > > i.e if you want mysql the company should build it with mysql.
> > >
> > > For 18,000 euro i could build the system myself:)
> > >
> > > My two cents
> > > /PM\
> >
> > What about the customer who asks a car company to make the vehicle's
tryes
> > out of velvet?  Would you go off in a huff if they refused and demand
they
> > do it?  There are obviously issues here that we are not privy to; there
> > *must* be logic behind the choice of SQLServer.  Are they saying that
mySQL
> > isn't upto it?
>
> Ah but if i say i want a mysql server and costs for it they shouldnt say
> we can do it in mssql
> I think they should give me an estimate on the costs for what i want
> then
> i can discuss how to get the cost down
>

Unless they are saying they doubt that mySQL is upto, it so it's no good
quoting.  They may have a room full of SQLServer people twiddling their
thumbs in which case I agree with you, they are not bucking for the customer
here.  On the other hand they have very real doubts that mySQL is upto the
job; they may be wrong on this last point, but at least they are being
honest in their beliefs.  Who knows!


> >
> > Porting a DB takes more 'than a couple of hours'.  What about the
written
> > procedures, the security mappings, the back up and recovery procs, the
> > fallback arrangements, the testing etc.
> >
> > If you think E18k is a lot then ask for a detailed task plan with
effort;
> > find out what they are asking you to pay for.
> >
> > The DB was described as 'fairly complicated' whatever that may mean.
> > Perhaps - and we are all guesing - there are remote data issues, views,
> > stored procs, java and god knows what else that all needs to be
integrated.
>
> Mysql has always filled my need (wich is with perl,java,php)
> Granted it would be better to know exactly what fairly complicated is
>
> >
> > Bottom line when you get a quote is find out what they want to do task
by
> > task and then cut it down from there.
>
> I have to agree with this but i dont think you should pay for getting a
> workdescription
> from them (ofcourse i dont know much about administrating papperwork i
> am a technichian)
>
100% agree.  Planning, including bidding for a job, is an overhead.  There
should be no charge for this.  IBM would disagree with us however :-)

Tony



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