One thing everyone forgets is that an Esthetician also does the back- so in essence, we CAN do back massages! So I can actually massage most of the body under my dual licenses. In PA anyway! Buenos dias, Lynnette Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-----Original Message----- From: Maggie in Visalia <onykoph...@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:38:04 To: <NailTech@googlegroups.com> Subject: NailTech:: Re: question/massage/interpretation I think if state boards take away stylists' right to massage the scalp, and/or nail techs' right to massage arms/legs they will be one step closer to my conspiracy theorist paranoia that they are just plain attempting to legislate me out of job. My clients EXPECT me to massage their hands and arms during a manicure and their legs and feet during a pedicure. Since stylists are fully licensed, they would also be within their jurisdiction to offer hand/arm, foot/leg and well.... ummm, massage of pretty much ANY legal body part since skin care falls under the jurisdiction of a full cosmetology license. I will say-- as of California. Our state does not regulate massage therapy. Individual cities and counties can set their own requirements. So massage therapists are currently out of the State Board's control, even though many CMTs work in salons. This, of course, means that a CMT working in a salon has to meet CERTAIN criteria under CA rules and regs for salons, such as keeping bottles labeled, etc. The things that are specifically spelled out pertaining to things IN a salon. But inspectors can't regulate how massage therapists perform services and such. It would be in the states best interest to require a cosmetology or esthetician license for massage therapists. But like I said, I've become utterly convinced that the state (of California, at least-- no wonder we're effin broke, they keep telling us NOT to work! We have freakin billboards on busses begging us to apply for food stamps for crying out loud!) is trying to legislate my job out of existence. If you outlaw doing nails, only outlaws will do nails! [cough cough] ah-hem. You probably weren't looking for such an empassioned response, were you? Yes. I consider it reasonable for manicurist/pedicurists to massage hands/arms up to the elbows and feet/legs up to the knee. We were specifically taught that during schooling. And yes. I consider it reasonable for stylists to be able to massage scalps.. If the boards decide that only a certified massage therapist can perform those services, clients will turn to salons that break the rules. They expect a foot and leg massage during their pedicures and if the upscale salons who play by the rules stop performing massages during pedicures, the clients will only head to the questionable salons where they massage their legs. You know, the same salons that also use Credo Blades and depilatory wax on the legs? Because business is about supply and demand. Clients keep supplying outlaw nail salons with business because outlaw nail salons keep supplying clients with the services they demand. The rest of us can apply for food stamps I guess. Maggie Franklin: Attitudes Salon; Visalia, CA "Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time." Maggie's Website Maggie's Blog Maggie Rants [and Raves] Myspace Facebook --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Diana Bonn <bonn.di...@att.net> wrote: From: Diana Bonn <bonn.di...@att.net> Subject: NailTech:: question/massage/interpretation To: nailTech@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 4:35 AM Any massage therapists on this list? Or to all nail techs/stylist question. Do you consider nail techs massaging the lower legs, foot, arms (to elbows) and hands part of massage therapist interpretation of your (degree, certification,license) or do you think that nail techs should be able to massage certain parts of the body? The same EXACT question for stylists concerning Scalp Massage? part of your (degree,certification, license)? Do you think that because you received training in massage at a "accredited school for massage" and nail techs/stylists aren't specifically trained in these areas that stylist/nailtechs should not massage? There is a situation that could happen in the future that some may try to remove the word "massage" in language concerning nail techs and stylists. diana from indiana --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to NailTech@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nailtech+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NailTech?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---