A. As far as I know, Doug has not been employed at CND for the last few years, nor did he have anything to do with Shellac. However He is a great chemist and really knows his stuff. There are a few other chemists in this industry like Jim (polymer) and I (Cosmetic). From what I know from the true chemists in this industry we ALWAYS put nail techs before our profits. True there is a bunch of misinformation from companies that "make" their own products.
B. I have ALWAYS said you can over cure gel. It can occur in as few as 10 seconds of over cure.
There are not any new rules, all of the "old" gel works just like it always has. The "new" gel (polish) has different rules, and different instructions. Follow the instructions and you will get the same results we do... Don't follow the instructions and you will get your own results.
Maybe other companies philosophies and instructions are different, but not ours.
-Erick
CEO at Gelousy. And I approve this message.
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Subject: NailTech:: Overcuring gel questions
From: Maggie in Visalia <onykoph...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:50 pm
To: 1Nail Tech list <nailtech@googlegroups.com>
--Ok, I need a chem-geek.I'm sure it comes as no surprise to anyone who's known me (or known of me) for any length of time, but I'm skeptical of pretty much any information that comes down the pike these days on the subject of product chemistry.A. I have to take into consideration that the experts on the subject also all represent companies and products that they depend on for their livelihood, not to mention are personall invested in-- I'm sure Doug Schoon thinks of Shellac as his personal baby, for example. So I can't think of any source of info on these matters that doesn't come with personal bias.B. Everything they used to tell us has changed in the last 20 years that I've been listening! Seriously, I remember being told that you could NOT overcure gel! That once all the polymer chains were formed, they were done. So continued exposure to UV light wasn't going to do anything else.It's not that I can't understand that technology changes. That maybe the gel technology that's primarily used in the industry today isn't the same as it used to be. I'm totally cool with that-- I just want someone to acknowledge that it changed. When did anyone say, "Well, it used to be like this, see? But now we use this instead and so we have these issues now...?"Ok. So anyway.... The current word is that gel CAN be over-cured. If anyone would care to explain to me HOW over-curing takes place, I am ALL ABOUT learning!Just a day or two ago, I came across a post from Manicures That Last about over-curing and the example was given that you don't really need to worry about over-curing until you get into 5 minute+ range.Ummmmm..... so, what happens if a nail chips? or breaks? or peels off? or whatever? Wouldn't repairing a gel/gel polish nail, at 2 minutes per coat (8 minutes total in a standard flourescent lamp) mean that any other nails that get re-exposed to the light during the repair are now over-cured?Maggie Franklin:Owner & Artist, The Art of Nailz, Visalia CA"Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time."
Maggie Rants [and Raves]@Nails Magazine
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