William B. Norton wrote:
The big $$$ is to the hotel - $105K for 1 mtg.
This is just for the conference rooms? That's a lot more expensive that
I would have thought.
The bottom line, I think you need a few FTEs no matter how you manage NANOG.
No argument there. There will always be a need for dedicated staff in
an organization like this. It's just too much for anyone to try to
attack while having a regular paying job.
I assume that slide 8 contains 1/3 of the salary for the year that this
meeting was supposed to cover, rather than the full one?
Having fewer meetings decreases the revenue while keeping the 2-3 FTEs
constant. Probably leads to a greater net loss.
Who is making up for the loss?
My conclusion is that more revenue is needed, more sponsorships, more
beer-n-gear revenue, more NANOG commemorative mugs and boxer shorts.
And find a way to knock down the hotel expenses somehow.
Maybe reduce the number of rooms? I remember a question about whether
the computer room was required. I know I usually see one or two people
in there during a meeting, but I certainly never attempted to monitor
how many people use it in total. Do the B&G vendors cover the room, or
is NANOG picking up the majority of that price tag?
BTW - I didn't see the ARIN $50K contributions in the budget on this
page. Maybe Cisco should kick in $50K in kind and we don't need to have
this conversation ;-)
What percentage does the host company provide?
What are the fixed costs of the servers, and the people that manage the
servers? That may be a fixed cost that we could find a host to donate.
The requirements would just need to be known before trying to find a
individual or company to donate the resources. Are there any other
costs that NANOG is paying for that might be donated instead?
-Sean
(I forgot, please respond through the list.)
